WiiM HDMI personal opinion

[Deleted member 10030]

I am researching this subject and am getting conflicting information. Linkplay implemented hdmi, but violated the basic functions of the hdmi protocol. Arc/eArc implies an audio return channel. Therefore, there must be a direct channel. According to the rules we should get a channel to input and a channel to output. Linkplay blatantly violates this rule and is misleading in its lack of logic. On the forum people have been screaming the most that the WiiM is a streamer first and foremost and input channels are overkill. Where's the logic in that? If it's neutered in production, it's a big mistake. If this is done intentionally programmatically, it needs to be fixed. The WiiM ultra could have been a legend and a universal device, but it's just another neutered dud. Every new device is produced neutered. All the time something works weird and illogical. Simple example. I have a hdmi matrix orei bk-402a and it is a great device. The ARC function works as it should, by the book! All audio from input ports 1-4 and output ports 1-2 are returned to input port 1. That's the point of ARC technology. So I plugged my Apple TV 4K into input port 1 and output the sound to the default HomePods speakers. This is an awesome decision to bring airplay back to literally any hdmi device. I'd like to buy a WiiM ultra, but Linkplay hit on the very essence of hdmi ARC. And I'm silent on the issue of usb-c as an audio interface. Is it really hard in 2024-25 to have full HDMI?

Exemplary Scheme.

 

[Burnside]

Great news.

But I’m interested/concerned about ‘Apple TV. What limitations will this bring?

Don’t understand what you’re asking. If it’s about the Apple TV WiiM Home app lite, I just see that as a means of displaying the Now Playing page on your TV from the app running on your Apple TV, with perhaps the usual media controls and means to select which WiiM device you want to show.. It’s a way of satisfying the requests to see what’s playing on your WiiM on a larger tv screen that’s more accessible than some of the more “techy” solutions posted in the forum.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Don’t understand what you’re asking. If it’s about the Apple TV WiiM Home app lite, I just see that as a means of displaying the Now Playing page on your TV from the app running on your Apple TV, with perhaps the usual media controls and means to select which WiiM device you want to show.. It’s a way of satisfying the requests to see what’s playing on your WiiM on a larger tv screen that’s more accessible than some of the more “techy” solutions posted in the forum.

I don’t have Apple TV.

 

[Burnside]

I don’t have Apple TV.

Still don’t know what you were asking then if my answer didn’t address it.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Still don’t know what you were asking then if my answer didn’t address it.

I’m not sure if we’re at cross purposes, can we go back to the beginning?

Can you install Apple TV on any (most) TVs? Is some sort of Apple account/payment required?

 

[Wiimer]

I’m not sure if we’re at cross purposes, can we go back to the beginning?

Can you install Apple TV on any (most) TVs? Is some sort of Apple account/payment required?

Are you confusing this with APP?


Apple TV is a streaming device that connects to HDMI. You probably need an Apple ID. As long as WiiM app lite is offered free, no payment should be required.

 

[CliffyBC]

Just read thru this complete post and I just wondered what it was all about.
Could someone enlighten me as to what the OP wanted to know?

 

[Burnside]

I’m not sure if we’re at cross purposes, can we go back to the beginning?

Can you install Apple TV on any (most) TVs? Is some sort of Apple account/payment required?

You can install the Apple TV+ app on a range of platforms but that’s just their video streaming platform like Netflix, DisneyPlus etc.

What WiiM are talking about is an app for the Apple TV hardware which is an Apple media platform (as in @wiimer’s pic above) which you use to host video and audio streaming apps, much like a Fire TV stick, Roku, Now TV stick etc, which you’d originally use to make a dumb tv smart. In later versions, they have an App Store much like an iPhone or Mac.

 

[Burnside]

Just read thru this complete post and I just wondered what it was all about.
Could someone enlighten me as to what the OP wanted to know?

The OP appeared to have misunderstood the function of HDMI ARC on the Ultra and if I recall ended up being quite offensive when views didn’t coincide with theirs, with several posts being deleted making the overall thread hard to follow as a result. Like Elvis, he left (or was escorted out of) the building

 

[CliffyBC]

The OP appeared to have misunderstood the function of HDMI ARC on the Ultra and if I recall ended up being quite offensive when views didn’t coincide with theirs, with several posts being deleted making the overall thread hard to follow as a result. Like Elvis, he left (or was escorted out of) the building

Thanks for that, I thought I was just being dumb..

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

You can install the Apple TV+ app on a range of platforms but that’s just their video streaming platform like Netflix, DisneyPlus etc.

What WiiM are talking about is an app for the Apple TV hardware which is an Apple media platform (as in @wiimer’s pic above) which you use to host video and audio streaming apps, much like a Fire TV stick, Roku, Now TV stick etc, which you’d originally use to make a dumb tv smart. In later versions, they have an App Store much like an iPhone or Mac.

Right. I have an LG TV, and a Fire TV Stick.

What do I need to download to where?

 

[Burnside]

Right. I have an LG TV, and a Fire TV Stick.

What do I need to download to where?

Unless you want to watch Apple Tv content, there'll not be anything for you to download.

The Apple TV+ app is just a video delivery app like Netflix, not a platform for other apps. An Apple TV hardware device is a media streamer akin to a Fire TV in that you can install video apps like Netflix etc.

The Wiim future offering is just for an app for Apple TV hardware, and that's why others like me are asking for a Fire TV or Android TV version.

 

[Wiimer]

Unless you want to want Apple Tv content, there'll not be anything for you to download.

The Apple TV+ app is just a video delivery app like Netflix, not a platform for other apps. An Apple TV hardware device is a media streamer akin to a Fire TV in that you can install video apps like Netflix etc.

The Wiim future offering is just for an app for Apple TV hardware, and that's why others like me are asking for a Fire TV or Android TV version.

Actually, I guess Steve knows all this and is teasing us