Roon WiiM Pro is now Roon Ready

[Manny]

I thought a while wether to write this or not, because I am aware there are other legitime meanings. Most of the contras are about pricing. But, welcome in real life, there are more and more people who will and can afford. Only a few ideas, quite sure I can find even more.

Maybe it reads like pure advertising, but I am absolutely convinced with the product and was with it from the very first moment. And nearly 100% of the contras come from people who never tried.

So, for me

• Roon is the best software. One player only for all the stuff. The company concentrate only on this. But this they do near to perfect.
• Before Roon every streaming item has to have a dedicated developed or shared software. Like HEOS or Bluesound. With Roon that changed. RR devices can change and the software remains. More and more manufactures faced that. It would be more and more difficult to advertise a hardware not RR. WiiM is an example.
• Settings with all your connected gear can be made by Roon or by you. Mostly Roon will do better. If there exists a really "audiophile" software, Roon is. So many switches to switch and so many boxes to tick.
• The multiroom integration is perfect.
• Roon makes the administration of your music as easy as possible. Ripping f.e. is easy with other software too. But no tagging by hand with all the related pain in the a.. Tell the software where to archive your music and leave the remaining work with it.
• Roon "knows" more about music than other algorithms. And quite sure the most of us. No need to grab information. The recommendations for new listening experience are outstanding. If I get recommendations from the streaming services after listening to Mozart 40 they recommend Mozart 39. Not very sophisticated.
• Roon is stable and reliant. No more "no device found".
• Room cares and helps with room acoustics. DSP, if wanted, made easy. Roon knows the most speakers and headphones and is able to find decent settings.
• Roon integrates Qobuz and Tidal. AFAIK Amazon not yet.
• If you want DSD, Roon can handle.

So, crucify me. But I will stay a diehard supporter. The Nucleus was my best purchase a few years ago.

I’ve only just started using Roon and love it. In onl a couple of weeks I have discovered a lot of new music because of the easy interface. I also love how it interfaces with my second system Roon ready Devialet speaker. Can’t wait to use it with Wiim on main system.
Best wishes.

 

[Willx]

All of this is true but the same can almost be said for LMS which costs absolutely nothing.
In reality these days there isn't very much that Roon does that LMS doesn't. Yes its more difficult to set up but you can't ever get left with a broken Nucleus device that cost silly money to buy in the first place.

You just need a reasonable computer to run Roon. You do not need a Nucleus. I use a desktop.

 

[Brantome]

You just need a reasonable computer to run Roon. You do not need a Nucleus. I use a desktop.

I think that’s a significant barrier to running Roon - I don’t want to have to have a PC or NUC running just because I want to listen to some music. I do have LMS on a Raspberry Pi, but that’s a low cost, low power device, almost like a small appliance.

 

[mvonh]

Signed up for the whitelist for early access to firmware with Roon enabled. Now just waiting for the firmware to get pushed to my device. Is there a client (Iphone app) update that will be required, or is that functionality already in the App (ie options for Roon, ie what the Wiim is identified as etc).

 

[Brantome]

Signed up for the whitelist for early access to firmware with Roon enabled. Now just waiting for the firmware to get pushed to my device. Is there a client (Iphone app) update that will be required, or is that functionality already in the App (ie options for Roon, ie what the Wiim is identified as etc).

It might already be in the app as some briefly noticed a Roon entry under music services a few weeks back - that might reappear when it detects Roon readiness in the firmware

 

[mvonh]

It might already be in the app as some briefly noticed a Roon entry under music services a few weeks back - that might reappear when it detects Roon readiness in the firmware

Yes that's what I figured.

 

[Billyk]

It was my reason to buy a Nucleus. It is also only a computer, but build for one purpose only, I can hide it and the maintenance is done remotely. No need to check for updates. And I do everything I want via the app. First I was using it with a laptop. That was already fine, but much more inconvenient and the WAF was around zero. But of course I have to mention that the purchase was pure luxury and the last step. All the other stuff was done before. It is a nice to have, not more. But this can be said for so many other things. And again: I love it

Roon user for several years. Arc is a major upgrade and really adds value. I am upgrading it but my Roon server is currently on a BeeLink mini with an N95 Celeron, 8Gb Ram Win 11 pro. It cost me $135.00 on Amazon. It runs Roon okay, several endpoints simultaneously. It does strain to do so but my point is you can set up a Roon server fairly inexpensively.
Just wanted to add that. I also use RPis for end points, that is until I discovered this device.

 

[Pcryan5]

All quiet after all the clamouring for Roon…

Guess it might pick up once people wake up…

I turned off my PRO while waiting for ROON certification. ROON brings more to my party than the PRO does. Soon they can boogie together.

 

[Billyk]

@Billyk
Agreed nearly every word. But I am a reckless ready-to-use customer with a lack of knowledge in this part of audio. I do not even know what f.e. a BeeLink mini is and tbh I am not interested in getting this knowledge. Blame me for that. I also declare my remaining life time as to valuable to get such knowledge. I accept paying for things I can not do myself. Nevertheless people who can have my full respect.

I hear that. I’m in IT so think nothing of it!
Here is what I was talking about. I got it on sale but still it’s under $150.00.

Amazon.com

Download Roon, associate with your account, tell it where you store your tunes and login to your services, Bingo!

 

[Pcryan5]

Thanks BillyK - you can ignore my private message asking for this.

 

[Billyk]

Thanks BillyK - you can ignore my private message asking for this.

BTW love the avatar. Heading out to see Dead & Co. Sunday at Fenway!

 

[Pcryan5]

BTW love the avatar. Heading out to see Dead & Co. Sunday at Fenway!

Nice. We will see them at The Gorge in Washington State this time. We travel every summer to catch a show.

 

[Billyk]

To Nucleus or not to Nucleus....that's the question! Which was not initially part of the discussion. The ways to Roon can be very different.
What I dislike is this pricing discussion, mostly from people who never tried. Hearsay or readsay only. I can not imagine people in such a forum are not aware there are other possibilties. But not a single one seems to be ready all over or has an easy entry without diving deep in. Roon is ready and with ARC it is even more ready.

As much as I agree with you, the price of admission that way is steep for a lot of folks. With a smaller initial investment folks can enjoy the benefits of a Roon installation sooner and eventually upgrade as desired.
Also as you said we are way off topic, yikes! But I am a bit of a Roon evangelist, ha, ha! If folks are interested I’d be happy to start a thread.

 

[d6jg]

To Nucleus or not to Nucleus....that's the question! Which was not initially part of the discussion. The ways to Roon can be very different.
What I dislike is this pricing discussion, mostly from people who never tried. Hearsay or readsay only. I can not imagine people in such a forum are not aware there are other possibilties. But not a single one seems to be ready all over or has an easy entry without diving deep in. Roon is ready and with ARC it is even more ready.

The only completely plug and play way in is with a Nucleus. Any other way is very similar to a multitude of other systems.
My issue is with cost for sure. The Nucleus is a ridiculously overpriced PC. The basic one is an i3 with 8Gb Ram and a small SSD for the OS. A similar spec regular PC is a quarter of the price. Fact

 

[Willx]

I think that’s a significant barrier to running Roon - I don’t want to have to have a PC or NUC running just because I want to listen to some music. I do have LMS on a Raspberry Pi, but that’s a low cost, low power device, almost like a small appliance.

Life is full of choices. Computers on standby use minimal power and the cost is minimal also, particularly when compared to the cost of many people’s hifi setup.

 

[d6jg]

@Billyk and @d6jg
Every word is correct. I never wanted to be a crusader. And I wrote that for me and my knowledge or fun the Nucleus is the way to go. I am absolute aware that the pricing for a lot of people for the Nucleus is away from reality. But if I would like the software and the only reason not to have it are the 12 €/m then the question I have to answer first are likely not related to music reproduction. May be it reads arrogant, but I purchased it because I can. Others give money for other things. I give it for my music. And this post seems to be a good "last word" for me. I will read with interest but no more posting.

Don’t disappear. Your views are entirely valid and this debate has caused me to revisit Roon to compare it now to LMS now.
I’m interested in ARC. Does anyone know how it works? Is there a VPN tunnel of some description created and is it bandwidth limited? if you broadband isn’t high enough you can’t get it? Or is it in fact simply a clone of your database that gets you files from elsewhere?

 

[d6jg]

It is to difficult for me to keep fingers silent.
We use it at our (still) main location where we do not have any bandwidth issues. Setup from Nucleus was made by the dealer as normal part of the purchase who, together with our IT guy get it running through all existing VPN and firewalls. I do not even know if this was difficult, these IT anarchists are not keen to teach people. May be they fear it could make them obsolete

Don’t worry us “IT anarchists” will never be obsolete while there are people who think it’s too difficult to try for themselves.

 

[Billyk]

Don’t disappear. Your views are entirely valid and this debate has caused me to revisit Roon to compare it now to LMS now.
I’m interested in ARC. Does anyone know how it works? Is there a VPN tunnel of some description created and is it bandwidth limited? if you broadband isn’t high enough you can’t get it? Or is it in fact simply a clone of your database that gets you files from elsewhere?

Not the details. Install the iOS app, set up the ports on my internet equipment and it works. It required upnp enabled but once done it works. I have never had a bandwidth issue.

 

[Billyk]

Don’t disappear. Your views are entirely valid and this debate has caused me to revisit Roon to compare it now to LMS now.
I’m interested in ARC. Does anyone know how it works? Is there a VPN tunnel of some description created and is it bandwidth limited? if you broadband isn’t high enough you can’t get it? Or is it in fact simply a clone of your database that gets you files from elsewhere?

Not the details. Install the iOS app, set up the ports on my internet equipment and it works. It required upnp enabled

 

[d6jg]

Not the details. Install the iOS app, set up the ports on my internet equipment and it works. It required upnp enabled but once done it works. I have never had a bandwidth issue.

Interesting.
Must be similar to the way Plex do it.
It can be done with LMS but it really is an IT person only sort of setup.