These tests won't tell too much about the jitter coming from the device when it's connected to DACs like ADI-2.Look at the jitter graphs for Toslink and Coax below, there is not much to improve on a bit perfect signal with lowest jitter.
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Exactly. Looking at digital output alone it is already excellent (side bands below -155 dB), and when entering the DAC and going out as analog, it should be even more irrelevant/inaudible. As I was trying to point out: if the digital output is already excellent, the analog after the DAC more so, so how would the Pro Plus improve from that?These tests won't tell too much about the jitter coming from the device when it's connected to DACs like ADI-2.
Well, not exactly. For example, you would observe the same excellent quality of the Mini digital output and of the Pro output when both are connected to ADI-2, but it does not mean that both devices can produce signal of the same quality.Exactly. Looking at digital output alone it is already excellent (side bands below -155 dB), and when entering the DAC and going out as analog, it should be even more irrelevant/inaudible. As I was trying to point out: if the digital output is already excellent, the analog after the DAC more so, so how would the Pro Plus improve from that?
My internal dac does not reject jitter and I cannot add an external dac because I will worsen the snr - since my dac signal goes directly to the power amp section of my integrated - shorter path is preferred. External dac goes through the pre amp stage first. Either have optical with more more jitter input to my dac and up to 96k or coaxial with significant less jitter dac side but maybe more noisy and up to 192kLook at the jitter graphs for Toslink and Coax below, there is not much to improve on a bit perfect signal with lowest jitter.
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How did you deduce it?My internal dac does not reject jitter
And this and that?Either have optical with more more jitter input to my dac and up to 96k or coaxial with significant less jitter dac side but maybe more noisy and up to 192k
I think you're worrying far too much about Roksan's additive noise comment.My internal dac does not reject jitter and I cannot add an external dac because I will worsen the snr - since my dac signal goes directly to the power amp section of my integrated - shorter path is preferred. External dac goes through the pre amp stage first. Either have optical with more more jitter input to my dac and up to 96k or coaxial with significant less jitter dac side but maybe more noisy and up to 192k
Hi @onlyoneme . Thanks for your response.How did you deduce it?
And this and that?
I have probably did not see the response from WiimWhy keep asking when WiiM themselves said that there's no change on the digital part?
2.5m eachI think you're worrying far too much about Roksan's additive noise comment.
Do you have 1m speaker cables...?
Have you also seen this, line in vs digital in?Hi @onlyoneme . Thanks for your response.
According to injected jitter j tests on : https://www.soundstagenetwork.com/i...ts&catid=97:amplifier-measurements&Itemid=154
According to specs optical is capped at 24/96.
And roksan response about the dac paths ( in screenshot )
Totally as a humorous aside, does it also turn on the red light?I think you're worrying far too much about Roksan's additive noise comment.
It can, but it doesn't have to.Totally as a humorous aside, does it also turn on the red light?
What can I do about it ?