Wiim Transport

[epox112000]

Just wondering any chances that Wiim will have a transport. Just take out the build in dac and invest into high quality component just for streamer.

 

[onlyoneme]

I doubt it personally. WiiM philosophy differs and "hi end" niche for those who can hear single electron movements is occupied by brands with their own philosophy.

 

[Achim1811]

 

[Achim1811]

What the f... has the question for such a device from WiiM has to do with "High End"??

 

[epox112000]

What the f... has the question for such a device from WiiM has to do with "High End"??

I think not to use “hi end” but a better components for just streamer. Some post using raspberry pi with good clock and oscillator. Not sure is it true that it is good.

 

[epox112000]

I doubt it personally. WiiM philosophy differs and "hi end" niche for those who can hear single electron movements is occupied by brands with their own philosophy.

I did try on A6 and Wiim pro as a transport with same external DAC, A6 do sound better but not night and day difference.

 

[onlyoneme]

I did try on A6 and Wiim pro as a transport with same external DAC, A6 do sound better but not night and day difference.

In a proper blind test?
Anyway, transports are not equal and used components can make the difference, but there is also a dac at the end which can handle the incoming signal to make differences inaudible.

 

[epox112000]

In a proper blind test?
Anyway, transports are not equal and used components can make the difference, but there is also a dac at the end which can handle the incoming signal to make differences inaudible.

yup...it is a blind test. It sound brighter and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.

 

[Achim1811]

I think not to use “hi end” but a better components for just streamer. Some post using raspberry pi with good clock and oscillator. Not sure is it true that it is good.

My post was not related to you. I think also having a pure transport with ethernet, Wiim's streaming abilities and all the necessary digital outputs will find a market. And, my private recommendation, don't get trapped in forced discussions where the result is already written

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

yup...it is a blind test. It sound darker and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.

Define ‘darker’.

 

[Achim1811]

@epox112000 Remind my recommendation

 

[onlyoneme]

yup...it is a blind test. It sound darker and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.

So you've made sure that no unwanted signal processing is active for both streamers, you've used the same digital connection interface and you were able to say correctly which streamer played in the blind test, right?

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

yup...it is a blind test. It sound darker and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.

I’m still waiting for ‘darker’.

Meanwhile, how was this blind test conducted?

 

[slartibartfast]

I’m still waiting for ‘darker’.

Meanwhile, how was this blind test conducted?

I'm guessing "darker" = "less bright"

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

I'm guessing "darker" = "less bright"

So lower high end frequencies?

Is anyone going to argue that wouldn’t be measurable?

 

[epox112000]

So you've made sure that no unwanted signal processing is active for both streamers, you've used the same digital connection interface and you were able to say correctly which streamer played in the blind test, right?

I use LAN on both device and all cable remain the same. Coax out to DAC. I get someone to help on this test where I will not know which device being use.

 

[epox112000]

I’m still waiting for ‘darker’.

Meanwhile, how was this blind test conducted?

Hey sorry. The A6 is brighter instead of darker. The increase in high is audible.

 

[epox112000]

So lower high end frequencies?

Is anyone going to argue that wouldn’t be measurable?

This is not to argue and I agree is quite subjective. I just share what I listen. Perhaps someone has tried and may share their experience here.

 

[AlanB]

Hey sorry. The A6 is brighter instead of darker. The increase in high is audible.

We are still waiting for the detail of how you undertook the blind test. Can you oblige please?

 

[epox112000]

We are still waiting for the detail of how you undertook the blind test. Can you oblige please?

I use LAN on both device and all cable remain the same. Coax out to DAC. I get someone to help on this test where I will not know which device being use.