epox112000
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Just wondering any chances that Wiim will have a transport. Just take out the build in dac and invest into high quality component just for streamer.
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I think not to use “hi end” but a better components for just streamer. Some post using raspberry pi with good clock and oscillator. Not sure is it true that it is good.What the f... has the question for such a device from WiiM has to do with "High End"??
I did try on A6 and Wiim pro as a transport with same external DAC, A6 do sound better but not night and day difference.I doubt it personally. WiiM philosophy differs and "hi end" niche for those who can hear single electron movements is occupied by brands with their own philosophy.
In a proper blind test?I did try on A6 and Wiim pro as a transport with same external DAC, A6 do sound better but not night and day difference.
yup...it is a blind test. It sound brighter and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.In a proper blind test?
Anyway, transports are not equal and used components can make the difference, but there is also a dac at the end which can handle the incoming signal to make differences inaudible.
yup...it is a blind test. It sound darker and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.
So you've made sure that no unwanted signal processing is active for both streamers, you've used the same digital connection interface and you were able to say correctly which streamer played in the blind test, right?yup...it is a blind test. It sound darker and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.
yup...it is a blind test. It sound darker and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.
I'm guessing "darker" = "less bright"I’m still waiting for ‘darker’.
Meanwhile, how was this blind test conducted?
So lower high end frequencies?I'm guessing "darker" = "less bright"
I use LAN on both device and all cable remain the same. Coax out to DAC. I get someone to help on this test where I will not know which device being use.So you've made sure that no unwanted signal processing is active for both streamers, you've used the same digital connection interface and you were able to say correctly which streamer played in the blind test, right?
Hey sorry. The A6 is brighter instead of darker. The increase in high is audible.I’m still waiting for ‘darker’.
Meanwhile, how was this blind test conducted?
This is not to argue and I agree is quite subjective. I just share what I listen. Perhaps someone has tried and may share their experience here.So lower high end frequencies?
Is anyone going to argue that wouldn’t be measurable?
Hey sorry. The A6 is brighter instead of darker. The increase in high is audible.
I use LAN on both device and all cable remain the same. Coax out to DAC. I get someone to help on this test where I will not know which device being use.We are still waiting for the detail of how you undertook the blind test. Can you oblige please?
That's the first time ever I can see an opinion that another device is brighter than the WiiM.The A6 is brighter instead of darker
The brighter sound from the A6 can also depend on possible sample rate conversion on the spdif out , making the sound worse, and thypically might sound slightly brighter .yup...it is a blind test. It sound brighter and slight improve in resolution. I do not believe there is difference in the first place but it surprise me after the test.
Very good input. I might need to try more.The brighter sound from the A6 can also depend on possible sample rate conversion on the spdif out , making the sound worse, and thypically might sound slightly brighter .
We have tested the WiiM pro as a digital transport ( using an Apple charger for the WiiM ) with an external dac against a Linn DS klimax streamer and they sounded very similar . We also discovered that the digital preamp volume control from spdif out is a very good sounding one in the WiiM pro. There is no audible worsening going from 0 dB ( full signal ) to - 20 dB If using an external dac. The WiiM pro is following the sample rate of the material without any SRC when using the digital volume control. This is also verified by measurements done by other people.
My Yamaha wxc50 in ”preamp” mode are sounding worse as a transport. Its audible, with a slightly brighter and harder sound. Its probably because its doing SRC with every material to 48 KHz. Using the Yamaha in ”streamer mode” without any SRC going on, loosing the volume regulation from spdif out, it sounds better and exactly as the WiiM pro.
Stay away from places like Hans Beekhuyzen and Alpha audio. They earn their living promoting expensive gear.
Because of all disinformation on the net, I thought the WiiM pro was inferior to much more expensive transports , but it was not as our comparison with the Linn klimax streamer showed.
One tweak that works for the WiiM … there are very small changes for the better in sound from the WiiM pro If a better power supply is used, like an 5 v Apple charger ( helmet on )
If you dont believe it, try.