Wiim ultra HDMI arc
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I respect your opinion, but it seems you don't respect mine. I'm not interested in what you would do in my situation. If you want, you can even connect 4 subwoofers for watching the news. None of my business.
My family don't care. My LG C3 has sufficient sound quality and volume for their needs during the day. If so, there is no need to have everything on for most of the day.
Talking about respect ... everybody is entitled to wish for any feature, not matter how absurd it might seem to others. Just please respect that WiiM have implemented HDMI ARC exactly the way it's supposed to work. They didn't miss out anything, they are not fooling you, they are not treating you carelessly as a customer just because they did.
This is not a "shortcoming related to the new hardware". If you feel "disappointed" about it the only person responsible for your feelings is you. If you call your current options "shitty" this implies you might not respect the work WiiM have done here.
Having said that, you are free to request a feature change, of course. If there is any company on this planet that might pick up such a requirement (if technically possible in a sensible way), then it's probably WiiM. Just please don't argue in a way like you had been ripped of. I suppose that this was not your intention, anyway.
Mine is efficient at idle, but it's not zero. Add in the subwoofer (which is actively unwanted at night) and it's definitely noticeable. This is the same line of thought for wanting the 12v trigger and auto standby.
I am blessed with TV speakers that are surprisingly good for low volume listening, and they are effectively zero W when the TV is already powered on. We ran with just them for like a year during the NBNH times (new baby new house) while the component system hadn't found its place yet and it was not awful.
That said, I am more concerned with the frequent power cycles. The TV speakers once again don't have this problem if the TV has to turn on anyway, and the TV is not nearly as long term of an investment. I don't like to shorten the otherwise long life of quality components if I don't have to.
Be that as it may, the "HDMI Standby" / "HDMI Control" (off during standby) is quite common in AVRs and prepros for practical reasons. I don't consider the lack of it a bug but would definitely be a nice feature. Same as the current "HDMI-CEC Power Control" toggle, not mandated but a practical addition since without it CEC is ultra annoying for us HT+music people.
Not exactly. There's still an inbuilt amplifier and this will consume more or less power, depending on if it has to operate the speakers or not. Might not make much of a difference compared to the power drawn by the screen, though.
You shouldn't have to defend your request, anyway.
I switch off my WiiM Amp, my WiiM Ultra and my Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 when they are not in use. And by switch off I really mean cutting the power supply. I've done this for years with non-WiiM equipment and didn't have a single failure, so I'm pretty confident in this concept.
I won't disagree, even though I don't need it.
And who determines how it should work? Because for me, it should work so that when I turn on the TV, I don't want it to always run ARC output when I had the TV speakers set up beforehand.
Wiim has one of the best, or the best support and community of any audio company I know. I've never said anything different
I don't understand why I can't feel disappointed by the fact that I have to unplug the HDMI cable every time, or constantly change the TV settings. I could use a different wording than "shitty" - that's true. Sorry about that.
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I didn't count on further response
guy48065
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The 12V trigger works really nice for switching additional devices together with the Ultra. I added a trigger adapter by Audiophonics.fr to automatically switch on/off my Ncore Poweramp.
You can also buy power sockets with integrated 12V trigger input.
You can also buy power sockets with integrated 12V trigger input.
hgo58
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"You can also buy power sockets with integrated 12V trigger input."
Do you have a link? I have not been able to find any.
Do you have a link? I have not been able to find any.
I summarized it as a feature request here, please vote if you care either way: https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/...hen-ultra-in-standby-to-use-tv-speakers.4925/ .
You've made me curious so I checked: at idle or low volume there is no discernible difference in the TV's power usage between an external amp and internal speakers. I suppose that if the internal TV amp even costs anything at idle, it's always on when the TV on so I can't avoid paying that cost.
You've made me curious so I checked: at idle or low volume there is no discernible difference in the TV's power usage between an external amp and internal speakers. I suppose that if the internal TV amp even costs anything at idle, it's always on when the TV on so I can't avoid paying that cost.
I've tried this with a smart strip and I don't quite like it for multiple reasons: spurious wakeups (solenoid clicks) in the amp on power cut of either the Ultra or the amp, even from standby; at power on the Ultra goes on and plays a sound even if it was previously in standby, so I can't put it on a schedule either; finally, we do like (love) the convenience of playing music with one click from my phone without worrying about power state and the Ultra booting. Really, the Ultra is very seamless in normal use, I just want to be able to tweak the seamlessness for the TV input.
audiobliss
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Most wife's and kids couldn't care less about turning on all these extra equipment just to watch TV. HDMI ARC has always been a PITA. Just avoid it and use the TV optical output when you want with no stress.
Turning on all the extra equipment? Switch on the switched power strip with the foot switch, press the power button on the TV remote control, the WiiM Ultra and the connected power amplifiers are switched on.
Either my wife is a very unusual super brain (well possible) or turning on the extra equipment isn't all that hard.
PS:
I agree that HDMI ARC has always been a PITA, but what can I do if it just works with the Ultra?
slartibartfast
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It isn't hard to turn it on but most people probably think why bother for EastEnders?Turning on all the extra equipment? Switch on the switched power strip with the foot switch, press the power button on the TV remote control, the WiiM Ultra and the connected power amplifiers are switched on.
Either my wife is a very unusual super brain (well possible) or turning on the extra equipment isn't all that hard.
PS:
I agree that HDMI ARC has always been a PITA, but what can I do if it just works with the Ultra?
I have my TV connected to the Amp but rarely bother to turn the Amp on for TV unless it's something that would benefit from it.
Oh, I'm not going back to "which remote do I have to use now for volume". And the era of modal universal remotes seems to be over and frankly, as far as I'm concerned, good riddance. I bought this device specifically for ARC and it works almost perfectly, certainly the positives outweigh the negatives.
That's creative, but seeing how my power strip is well out of reach I'd prefer to use the dedicated red button on the remote, which right now has almost no use for me (idle timer is usually the power off). It's all wired up to control everything too, it's just that the darn TV presses it for me when it starts up whether I want it or not.
PeterR
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Hi all,
I seem to have an issue with autosensing HDMI/optical input.
From HDMI arc being set but not used (like after switching off tv) the Ultra will not switch to the actual input (optical) automatically. It got stuck to HDMI, even when the HDMI cable is disconnected.
Switching from other inputs or ethernet to optical is without any issue.
I have to rely on this autosensing feature as I am using a Logitech hub to control all listening and watch equipment with one single and easy to use remote.
WiiM (bluetooth remote) is not supported by Logitech so I cannot force the WiiM input selection.
Anyone facing this issue or having a workaround (not being using the WiiM remote...)
I seem to have an issue with autosensing HDMI/optical input.
From HDMI arc being set but not used (like after switching off tv) the Ultra will not switch to the actual input (optical) automatically. It got stuck to HDMI, even when the HDMI cable is disconnected.
Switching from other inputs or ethernet to optical is without any issue.
I have to rely on this autosensing feature as I am using a Logitech hub to control all listening and watch equipment with one single and easy to use remote.
WiiM (bluetooth remote) is not supported by Logitech so I cannot force the WiiM input selection.
Anyone facing this issue or having a workaround (not being using the WiiM remote...)
