WiiM Vibelink Amp

if now presented like this..
(in any case the product was well finalized... and already well presented)

the wiim teams will finally be able to clarify certain points here...
processing of the analog input (adc?)...
the type of internal dac... ?
the use of the potentiometer? etc.
based on amp pro "simplified" ?

(the rest is a product, which has become quite typical, in 3255 pffb increased in power (tension), compared to the amp pro..which was expected...)
Its seems clear to me that the unit probably uses two mono tpa3251 or two tpa3255 in PBTL with PFFB .
This makes it drive lower impedances in a better way, giving more power. The 3251 has slightly lower distortion than 3255.

This is the lowest IM distortion at 19-20 kHz I have seen with tpa 3251/3255 with PFFB in PBTL.

The volume control is probably to flirt with audiophiles who dont own a WiiM streamer.:)
 
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Let's now hope for some clarification from wiim on the few legitimate questions that may arise...
this will prevent everyone from wasting our time...
 
Its seems clear to me that the unit probably uses two mono tpa3251 or two tpa3255 in PBTL with PFFB .
This makes it drive lower impedances in a better way, giving more power. The 3251 has slightly lower distortion than 3255.

This is the lowest IM distortion at 19-20 kHz I have seen with tpa 3251/3255 with PFFB in PBTL.

The volume control is probably to flirt with audiophiles who dont own a WiiM streamer.:)
we had understood for a while that the classic approach would be used in affordable, from the amp pro amplification side...

some questions remain...
This answer in a few words..
;-)
 
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Based on the analog input test results, is it possible to assume that the analog signal goes through the ADC and DAC? Does anyone know?
 
ASR review ..

 
ASR review ..

and for completed

not concerned... I'll stop there... ;-)
 
ASR review ..

;-)
 
So it is only 73W per channel into 8 Ohms. Not much more than the WiiM Amp at 60W into 8 Ohms.
Inconsistent measurement conditions by Amir, as far as I can tell.

Based on the analog input test results, is it possible to assume that the analog signal goes through the ADC and DAC? Does anyone know?
Amir says, probably not. The SINAD value is spoiled by a ground loop in his case.
 
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I feel the Fosi V3 mono amps are a better "deal" and "SINAD performance" winner over the VIbelink for the Ultra as a preamp. The Vibelink is $150 more than the $250 Fosi amps which offer more power.

I do appreciate the matching look and built-in power supply of the VIbelink and I may have bought it instead of the Fosi's had it been out, but I don't see any reason to swap over to the Vibelink currently.

If WiiM had offered a $300 Vibelink without a DAC and volume control (a pure power amp), that would be the perfect match for the Ultra.
 
I feel the Fosi V3 mono amps are a better "deal" and "SINAD performance" winner over the VIbelink for the Ultra as a preamp. The Vibelink is $150 more than the $250 Fosi amps which offer more power.

I do appreciate the matching look and built-in power supply of the VIbelink and I may have bought it instead of the Fosi's had it been out, but I don't see any reason to swap over to the Vibelink currently.

If WiiM had offered a $300 Vibelink without a DAC and volume control (a pure power amp), that would be the perfect match for the Ultra.
telemike agrees with you. ;)

The SINAD figures might have to be taken with a grain of salt. But the fact that Amir had a ground loop issue with his AP analyser is not helpful, at least.

I must admit that I enjoy my 3e Audio A5 more than my V3 Monos. That's my bashful way of saying that I thinks that there's a difference in sound quality, when objectively many would declare the differences as beyond the threshold of perceivability. That puts me in a camp I'm usually not associated with. ;) Consequentially, I might be willing to lend the WiiM Vibelink Amp my ear (or both of them) before coming to a final judgement.

The nice looks and the comfort of an integrated power supply surely make it attractive, at least to me.
 
telemike agrees with you. ;)

The SINAD figures might have to be taken with a grain of salt. But the fact that Amir had a ground loop issue with his AP analyser is not helpful, at least.

I must admit that I enjoy my 3e Audio A5 more than my V3 Monos. That's my bashful way of saying that I thinks that there's a difference in sound quality, when objectively many would declare the differences as beyond the threshold of perceivability. That puts me in a camp I'm usually not associated with. ;) Consequentially, I might be willing to lend the WiiM Vibelink Amp my ear (or both of them) before coming to a final judgement.

The nice looks and the comfort of an integrated power supply surely make it attractive, at least to me.
the "" ground loop "" story is not trivial and must be verified...(except to consider that only the isolated toslink input have an interest)
 
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A ground loop is both something that's build into a device, though ... :)

This is the first WiiM device using safety ground, so it still worth looking at how it behaves in the wild.
 
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Takeaways for me:

1 - It measures similarly, but not quite as good as my current Topping PA5 II. ** (y)
2 - However, it has more power (170W vs 120W) … (y)
3 - …which I don't need. (n)
4 - The WiiM costs a lot more than the Topping. At the moment it's twice as much, and even if the price drops from £400 to £300, that's 50% more than the Topping. (n)
5 - I don't need the DAC (what is it for?). 🤷‍♂️
6 - It'd look nice in a stack with my Ultra... (y)
7 - …but strangely, seeing pics of both together, not as nice as I'd have thought, for some reason. I think the Ultra's black glass front looks classy, whilst the VibeLink's grey just looks a bit cheap and plasticky (sorry). The IOM looks far better. (n)
8 - Lots of discussion as to whether it's better to use a digital volume control on your front end, or analogue on your power amp - here, paired with the Ultra, you get the choice of both. (y)

Overall, if I didn't already have an excellent power amp, and were buying the Ultra fresh and wanting to see if I could find something to match, I'd certainly consider it, but I'd probably be more swayed by the Topping's much cheaper price and slightly better performance, unless I needed a lot more power.

All-in-all, better than I expected, but for me it's close but no cigar. This time.

** Topping SINAD 105 dB, WiiM 100dB - Topping SNR 107 dB at 5W/120.5 dB bits at full power, WiiM 102 dB at 5W/118 dB bits at full power, Topping MultiTone distortion 17-20 bits, WiiM 16-17 bits
 
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Takeaways for me:

1 - It measures similarly, but not quite as good as my current Topping PA5 II. ** (y)
2 - However, it has more power (170W vs 120W) … (y)
3 - …which I don't need. (n)
4 - The WiiM costs a lot more than the Topping. At the moment it's twice as much, and even if the price drops from £400 to £300, that's 50% more than the Topping. (n)
5 - I don't need the DAC (what is it for?). 🤷‍♂️
6 - It'd look nice in a stack with my Ultra... (y)
7 - …but strangely, seeing pics of both together, not as nice as I'd have thought, for some reason. I think the Ultra's black glass front looks classy, whilst the VibeLink's grey just looks a bit cheap and plasticky (sorry). The IOM looks far better. (n)
8 - Lots of discussion as to whether it's better to use a digital volume control on your front end, or analogue on your power amp - here, paired with the Ultra, you get the choice of both. (y)

Overall, if I didn't already have an excellent power amp, and were buying the Ultra fresh and wanting to see if I could find something to match, I'd certainly consider it, but I'd probably be more swayed by the Topping's much cheaper price and slightly better performance, unless I needed a lot more power.

All-in-all, better than I expected, but for me it's close but no cigar. This time.

** Topping SINAD 105 dB, WiiM 100dB - Topping SNR 107 dB at 5W/120.5 dB bits at full power, WiiM 102 dB at 5W/118 dB bits at full power, Topping MultiTone distortion 17-20 bits, WiiM 16-17 bits

However, Topping's support is hopeless 😂.
 
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