Apple Music A Most Elegant Way to Get Bit-Perfect High-Res Apple Music with WiiM DSP & Bass Management!

I've seen this on both, Apple Music and Qobuz, where different tracks on the same album are not the same sample rate.

-Ed
I have not seen that on Qobuz. I can understand that for some albums a specific track might have been mastered differently and should be noted, but what we are observing on Apple Music is not that.
 
I have not seen that on Qobuz. I can understand that for some albums a specific track might have been mastered differently and should be noted, but what we are observing on Apple Music is not that.
Are you guys talking about there being a higher-resolution copy in the server library, yet the client side is pulling a lower-res version?

I do see Apple Music doing this occasionally, and that is annoying.

-Ed
 
Yes... albums marked at quality A, play back some tracks at quality A and others at quality B<A (transcoded). I have not seen that on Qobuz.
 
Hello Wiim enthusiasts, this is my first post, be nice with me.
Will this work with an iphone 12 with a lightning -usb c cable hooked to a smsl po100 converter into the toslink digital in of my wiim pro plus?
 
Will this work with an iphone 12 with a lightning -usb c cable hooked to a smsl po100 converter into the toslink digital in of my wiim pro plus?
I tried with this set up, but the iphone 12 does not recognize the cable as an accessory like it would with head phones and keep playing music from its internal speakers.
Any idea ?
 
Will this work with an iphone 12 with a lightning -usb c cable hooked to a smsl po100 converter into the toslink digital in of my wiim pro plus?
I tried with this set up, but the iphone 12 does not recognize the cable as an accessory like it would with head phones and keep playing music from its internal speakers.
Any idea ?
Not unless the usb-c cable has the Apple chip in it
 
Will this work with an iphone 12 with a lightning -usb c cable hooked to a smsl po100 converter into the toslink digital in of my wiim pro plus?
I tried with this set up, but the iphone 12 does not recognize the cable as an accessory like it would with head phones and keep playing music from its internal speakers.
Any idea ?
You will need to use the Apple Lightning to USB Camera Adapter.
 
Will this work with an iphone 12 with a lightning -usb c cable hooked to a smsl po100 converter into the toslink digital in of my wiim pro plus?
I tried with this set up, but the iphone 12 does not recognize the cable as an accessory like it would with head phones and keep playing music from its internal speakers.
Any idea ?
When you first posted the same question on 14th April, @Burnside replied in the next post with a solution, and this definitely works with an iPhone XS Max, and 13 Pro Max, so would work with an iPhone 12.

 
When you first posted the same question on 14th April, @Burnside replied in the next post with a solution, and this definitely works with an iPhone XS Max, and 13 Pro Max, so would work with an iPhone 12.

I can confirm that also works with an iPhone 6S and also an iPhone 13 but both require the Apple Lightning to USB Camera Kit. It has the necessary Apple chip in it. Some copies work others don't.
 
I finally got it to work with a non apple lightning usb adapter. Pretty impressed with the sound quality. The wiim app shows LPCM, is it normal?
 

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I finally got it to work with a non apple lightning usb adapter. Pretty impressed with the sound quality. The wiim app shows LPCM, is it normal?
This screen shows the input signal, not the output signal. Linear Pulse Code Modulation is fine, either case.
 
This thread has been majorly enlightening to me, so thanks to @EddNog and everyone else who has contributed. At 67 years old and being involved with music for most of my life, I feel like a bit of an idiot not knowing this stuff and for the question I’m about to ask. I’ve always had decent but mostly ‘budget’ sound gear - not the cheapest, but definitely not audiophile material. The closest I’ve ever come to lossless audio was eons ago with a mid-tech Technics turntable, Nakamichi amp, and some rather large no-name speakers. I recall it sounding decent, but I know there was much, much better gear out there at the time. Thinking back on it now, we’re talking 50 years ago! Anyway, technology has come a long way since then, and even my modest setup now - bluetoothing Apple Music from iPhone to Amp Ultra with Paradigm floorstanders - is already the best sounding rig I’ve ever had … by a long shot. I’m listening to 1969 King Crimson right now, and it never sounded so good.

So before I take a plunge into true lossless hi-res sound, my question is, what kind of improvement in sound should I expect to experience?
 
This thread has been majorly enlightening to me, so thanks to @EddNog and everyone else who has contributed. At 67 years old and being involved with music for most of my life, I feel like a bit of an idiot not knowing this stuff and for the question I’m about to ask. I’ve always had decent but mostly ‘budget’ sound gear - not the cheapest, but definitely not audiophile material. The closest I’ve ever come to lossless audio was eons ago with a mid-tech Technics turntable, Nakamichi amp, and some rather large no-name speakers. I recall it sounding decent, but I know there was much, much better gear out there at the time. Thinking back on it now, we’re talking 50 years ago! Anyway, technology has come a long way since then, and even my modest setup now - bluetoothing Apple Music from iPhone to Amp Ultra with Paradigm floorstanders - is already the best sounding rig I’ve ever had … by a long shot. I’m listening to 1969 King Crimson right now, and it never sounded so good.

So before I take a plunge into true lossless hi-res sound, my question is, what kind of improvement in sound should I expect to experience?
The difference is very, very small. Hard for me to say as I am not your age yet. My dad, who turned 70 this year, tells me his high frequency hearing isn't what it was at my age. So that could be one factor that determines what difference you hear or if you hear a difference at all. Even if you do, the difference would be miniscule. I find the difference easier to detect when listening with headphones due to the fact that when listening with speakers, there are a lot of other mitigating factors (the room interaction to what comes out of the speakers before it reaches your ears, and also the higher noise floor in general of the open home environment).

I would not be surprised if the, "lossy," part of the compression algorithm primarily impacts the very lowest/infrasonic frequencies and the very highest/hypersonic frequencies more than the mids which we are most sensitive to, too.

-Ed
 
The difference is very, very small. Hard for me to say as I am not your age yet. My dad, who turned 70 this year, tells me his high frequency hearing isn't what it was at my age. So that could be one factor that determines what difference you hear or if you hear a difference at all. Even if you do, the difference would be miniscule. I find the difference easier to detect when listening with headphones due to the fact that when listening with speakers, there are a lot of other mitigating factors (the room interaction to what comes out of the speakers before it reaches your ears, and also the higher noise floor in general of the open home environment).

I would not be surprised if the, "lossy," part of the compression algorithm primarily impacts the very lowest/infrasonic frequencies and the very highest/hypersonic frequencies more than the mids which we are most sensitive to, too.

-Ed
At our age, nothing is what it was at your age! :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, thank you for this - it pretty much supports much of what I’ve been reading elsewhere on the subject. So, once again, I’m gonna just sit on what I have and enjoy it. I can safely say, at this point, I’m completely satisfied with this setup as it is. It sounds great at *reasonable* listening levels, but also has the muscle to kick it up when I want to destroy what’s left of my hearing. What more could I ask for.
 
At our age, nothing is what it was at your age! :ROFLMAO:

Anyway, thank you for this - it pretty much supports much of what I’ve been reading elsewhere on the subject. So, once again, I’m gonna just sit on what I have and enjoy it. I can safely say, at this point, I’m completely satisfied with this setup as it is. It sounds great at *reasonable* listening levels, but also has the muscle to kick it up when I want to destroy what’s left of my hearing. What more could I ask for.

I disagree. If you have listened to live music over time, without ear damage due to high volumes, and perceived timbre differences I think that normal high frequency limit droop, due to age, plays a minimal role. If timbre is preserved in playback the brain makes up for any high frequency perception changes.

Having said that… yes lossless recordings can sound better, as they can preserve timbre and venue recording acoustical cues better.

Airplay is ok, but their lossless version is better.
 
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