Beta Test: Audio Spectrum Display for WiiM Ultra

[QuarryHunslet]

i haven't noticed that until i read your comment and then..i switched back to VU meters (that weren't moving) and switched back and forth to "Original Signal" and they were moving again...so if I got this right, the new beta Spectrum analyzer switches to "Output Amplitude" display by default, and removes the option to switch between modes completely

Yes, there isn’t currently an option for the Audio Spectrum Display to use the Original Signal, but hopefully it will be added.

 

[MGJ]

I like it. Works great for me! Thanks WiiM Team

 

[azoriusmage]

Definitely has broken VU

 

[Mr Ee]

No revelation to add for this feature.
Installed it for 2 mins, then uninstalled it again.
Currently completely pointless when using the ultra for volume control.
And yet also when it's not...

My ultra is optical out to a vibelink.
There's no way I'm going to use the vibelink's volume dial (as nice as it is to use) instead of any of my tablet buttons, the remote, the ultra dial, the wiim app.

Let me know when it's on par with the RME

 

[lemmy1965]

The spectrum analyzer should be connected to the original audio signal and not to the volume on the wiim ultra. This way for the majority of users who listen to the wiim ultra at 100% it is unusable. Add more colors and it would be great!

 

[canard]

when we know the importance - usefulness of an element like an "overload" downstream of all signal processing ( if a logical possibility of "limiter off")...and that for ALL Wiims...not just to animate "the screen"...


(The Ultra was just released on July 24)
(I hope this beta results in something correct... quickly...)

 

[hgo58]

The spectrum analyzer should be connected to the original audio signal and not to the volume on the wiim ultra. This way for the majority of users who listen to the wiim ultra at 100% it is unusable. Add more colors and it would be great!

At 100% volume it should actually show the same as the source (original audio signal), except any EQ or pre-gain.

It doesn't work at full volume, that is clear. It is expected to never go to 0 (dBFS) but may come close. Anything that is at zero may cause distortion.

See https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/beta-test-audio-spectrum-display-for-wiim-ultra.8385/post-153332

There is clearly some work to do with the scale and the displayed values, before final release.

The scale should be from -90 dBFS to 0, with the correct logarithmic values.

dBFS=20*log10(volume/max volume)

The volume being the 24 or 32 sample value.

To be useful it should show output before any volume limiter kicks in!

 

[hgo58]

Sorry, I'll try this one first

Input Sound Profile beta
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Did you try the Sound Profile beta?

I did. See thread 'Beta Test: Sound Profile' https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/beta-test-sound-profile.8388/

It would be nice to be able to select the Spectrum display from there, when the input is not having any meta data.

 

[Wiimer]

Did you try the Sound Profile beta?

I did. See thread 'Beta Test: Sound Profile' https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/beta-test-sound-profile.8388/

It would be nice to be able to select the Spectrum display from there, when the input is not having any meta data.

Yes, I sent the tickets yesterday.
There are issues with forming and disbanding groups.

Also, I think it would be good to have a reset button on the profile edit screen.

..To be honest, I was waiting for the official thread

 

[hgo58]

..To be honest, I was waiting for the official thread

So was I. Then I made my own
Maybe we can discuss the purpose of the Sound Profile there?

 

[d00]

Why?
Location: Poland

 

[QuarryHunslet]

Why?
Location: Poland

Do you have an Amp Ultra? This feature is currently only available for the Ultra..

 

[d00]

Do you have an Amp Ultra? This feature is currently only available for the Ultra..

Ah OK. Yes, Amp Ultra.

 

[QuarryHunslet]

Ah OK. Yes, Amp Ultra.

I would expect this feature to be added to the Amp Ultra before long.

 

[kwd0405]

Looks good! However, same as reported with the VU meter in this thread, anything above 16bit 44.1KHz makes the animation look choppy and low framerate (below 30 or even 20fps) while CD-quality looks good and smooth.

 

[CliffyBC]

A quick blast of the great Richard Hawley on vinyl, video taken from my usual listening position around 3m away. The spectrum display is visable from this distance but any track text isn't at all. I'm happy with the spectrum display but don't need all the text stuff above. I'm sure when Wiim have tickled it up a bit I will be well happy with it.

 

[lemmy1965]

At 100% volume it should actually show the same as the source (original audio signal), except any EQ or pre-gain.

It doesn't work at full volume, that is clear. It is expected to never go to 0 (dBFS) but may come close. Anything that is at zero may cause distortion.

See https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/beta-test-audio-spectrum-display-for-wiim-ultra.8385/post-153332

There is clearly some work to do with the scale and the displayed values, before final release.

The scale should be from -90 dBFS to 0, with the correct logarithmic values.

dBFS=20*log10(volume/max volume)

The volume being the 24 or 32 sample value.

To be useful it should show output before any volume limiter kicks in!

At 100% volume it should actually show the same as the source (original audio signal), except any EQ or pre-gain.

It doesn't work at full volume, that is clear. It is expected to never go to 0 (dBFS) but may come close. Anything that is at zero may cause distortion.

See https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/beta-test-audio-spectrum-display-for-wiim-ultra.8385/post-153332

There is clearly some work to do with the scale and the displayed values, before final release.

The scale should be from -90 dBFS to 0, with the correct logarithmic values.

dBFS=20*log10(volume/max volume)

The volume being the 24 or 32 sample value.

To be useful it should show output before any volume limiter kicks in!

At 100% volume it should actually show the same as the source (original audio signal), except any EQ or pre-gain.

It doesn't work at full volume, that is clear. It is expected to never go to 0 (dBFS) but may come close. Anything that is at zero may cause distortion.

See https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/beta-test-audio-spectrum-display-for-wiim-ultra.8385/post-153332

There is clearly some work to do with the scale and the displayed values, before final release.

The scale should be from -90 dBFS to 0, with the correct logarithmic values.

dBFS=20*log10(volume/max volume)

The volume being the 24 or 32 sample value.

To be useful it should show output before any volume limiter kicks in!

As long as it does not use the original signal, then it is worthless. I also use logitech squeezebox touch (100% volume) and technics SHGE-70 equalizer and the signal from Tidal or my server and the values are normal on the spectrum analyzer. I only use the Wiim ultra as a transport (100% volume) to the DAC.

 

[hgo58]

As long as it does not use the original signal, then it is worthless. I also use logitech squeezebox touch (100% volume) and technics SHGE-70 equalizer and the signal from Tidal or my server and the values are normal on the spectrum analyzer. I only use the Wiim ultra as a transport (100% volume) to the DAC.

So why do you think that only the original signal is useful?

The only difference is that it doesn't include EQ and pre-gain.