Browsing and organizing USB media library is very tedious
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Specifically, from start to finish.
You're hiding behind jargon.
From what I can see there's no solution, and you're not even prepared to offer an explanation.
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You need to explain what that's a screenshot of, and how you've got there.
It looks like you have 5 albums and 3 EPs, one of which is Led Zep's Misty Mountain Hop.
Which isn't an EP.
And then some Pet Shop Boys. Which is just a Pet Shop Boys compilation.
No indication of what you had to do to get there.
That is the answer if you're set on using the onboard indexing.
You need a server that will index a tag holding releasetype (Album, EP, Compilation etc) and that will let you browse Artist -> Release Type -> Album.
This is why I've said that folder view isn't a bad option for Ultra indexing.
In folder view, yes there is no solution, I keep them in \artist\beatles\album. Then let LMS on a pi scan my music.
With folders under that, doesn't matter what the folder names are, or if there are beatles in other locations but typically \singles\beatles
There is a solution I just told you twice now, a good music scanning service that uses releasetype tags.
Use foobar to tag, if your singles are in one location drag the single folder to pane, edit release type tag to single then use will use that, if selected.
I listed that artist because it's just has a few. If I had a group with 100 albums , 100 singles, 100 EP, 100 live, 100 compilations it would just be te same.
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For clarity, this is how it looks for me. My apologies if it takes a few posts.
In folder View.
In folder View.
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Choose A-B, then The Beatles.
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Choose Singles.
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Choose Love Me Do.
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From The Beatles folder I can choose singles (as above) or albums, compilations, collections, EPs, etc.
Please post exactly (in the same step-by-step way I have) how you do this with tags. And how that’s as easy, clear, simple, obvious, and how it keeps everything exactly where you want it.
Cheers.
Please post exactly (in the same step-by-step way I have) how you do this with tags. And how that’s as easy, clear, simple, obvious, and how it keeps everything exactly where you want it.
Cheers.
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FOLDER VIEW? ROFL.
Never in the field of human discourse have I witnessed such an articulate, clear and reasoned argument.
What’s your point?
That's folder view?
That looks decent enough but what about multi disc albums? in a 20 disc set, having them all in one folder is a mess, but on mine under \cd10 \cd11 etc, but the scanner when it seems them puts them in one big list. So I don't need to browse \cd10 folder
What about combination of lossy and lossless files? I have \flac\ and \mp3 for example as well as \singles\ op
WIth each one, and you'd do mass tag of all, ie in foobar you would drag all EP folders from every band into playlist and mass edit. Then do the same for albums, compilations etc.
That looks decent enough but what about multi disc albums? in a 20 disc set, having them all in one folder is a mess, but on mine under \cd10 \cd11 etc, but the scanner when it seems them puts them in one big list. So I don't need to browse \cd10 folder
What about combination of lossy and lossless files? I have \flac\ and \mp3 for example as well as \singles\ op
WIth each one, and you'd do mass tag of all, ie in foobar you would drag all EP folders from every band into playlist and mass edit. Then do the same for albums, compilations etc.
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Also in your system you wouldn't be able to see these, where pet shop boy songs are in other albums, as those are in different locations, the "Now" albums are in \various
So it won't "link to" other folders, nor will it link to "appearances" ie duet with elton john, as that would be in \elton john directory.
You need ensure tags are sorted, artist, album, title, track etc. Easy to mass tag a whole artist branch, not to bad with album but track - nah. But there is a method to retrieve tag from filename as long that's ok. Tag and rename or foobar will do it.
So it won't "link to" other folders, nor will it link to "appearances" ie duet with elton john, as that would be in \elton john directory.
You need ensure tags are sorted, artist, album, title, track etc. Easy to mass tag a whole artist branch, not to bad with album but track - nah. But there is a method to retrieve tag from filename as long that's ok. Tag and rename or foobar will do it.
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If I have a multi-disc box - let’s say 10 disc - I have one folder for the box, containing 10 sub folders, one for each disc.
When I ripped them they were put each in its own folder, but the 10 folders weren’t in a master folder for the whole box. Takes 30 seconds to create, name, drag all 10 folders in, and copy some album art in.
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I see what you mean, but that’s not an issue for me.
I’m pretty sure that I don’t have an artist folder where a track on a compilation isn’t already in that folder anyway.
Example - U2. There are a few U2 tracks on compilations (Now, etc.) but they’re already in the U2 folder under ‘Singles’.
Has that answered your question, or have I misunderstood?
Yes in explorer that's how I manage it. But in LMS it shows all files in one lot, labelled disc 1 etc at the top. Also NOT using tags for classical is impossible as some file systems has issues with very long filenames, or characters.
Plus what if you want to find a specific track and also include all other covers of it, ie say cher, kyle, tina did the same cover, I can see that in seconds.
You can't do that.
File structure has it's place, for actual management in foobar save path, backing up but for the database, it's a bad method
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You've misunderstood.
If you navigate to \artist\u2, you'll see that album and files, that's ok
But you won't see
Now 102- best of 90's \ U2 - Zooropa
Best of 90's hits\U2 - Indie\ U2 - achtung baby
Like I showed earlier were all tracks from other albums are also shown, those "NOW" compilation albums. There is NO way you can integrate that into folder view. Impossible
Unless he copies those tracks to:
Code:
\artist\u2\Appears On\Now 102\
\artist\u2\Appears On\Best of 90's hits\
How long does it take you to search for one track out of entire collection? It can be anywhere, in any folder. Also it willld Mines takes a couple of seconds. So I can see every cover song If I was using folder search ie explorer it would take minutes
You also can't view files like this, showing composer details underneath
You can try on clinging onto view by folder, because you haven't used a good music database, that's your problem. I can also easily create my own filter section without touching the files. ie I just added singles
haha
You also can't view files like this, showing composer details underneath
You can try on clinging onto view by folder, because you haven't used a good music database, that's your problem. I can also easily create my own filter section without touching the files. ie I just added singles
Unless he copies those tracks to:
Code:\artist\u2\Appears On\Now 102\ \artist\u2\Appears On\Best of 90's hits\
haha
