Connecting Sony UBP-X800M2 Blu-ray player to WIIM Ultra

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Using this player to play SACD and CD music. It's a relatively cheap SACD solution.
Sony provides only HDMI, HDMI sound (not ARC!) or Co-Axial outputs. WIIM Ultra HDMI ARC input won't work with these, and it does not have a Co-Axial input.
It's obvious that Sony had mainly a TV connection in mind that can provide HDMI ARC connection to a sound bar.
The solution was to purchase a Co-Axial to optical adapter (~$20). Connect the Sony player to the adapter via a Co-Axial cable, then connect the adapter to WIIM with an optical cable (Toslink). Performance is good.
 
Using this player to play SACD and CD music. It's a relatively cheap SACD solution.
Sony provides only HDMI, HDMI sound (not ARC!) or Co-Axial outputs. WIIM Ultra HDMI ARC input won't work with these, and it does not have a Co-Axial input.
It's obvious that Sony had mainly a TV connection in mind that can provide HDMI ARC connection to a sound bar.
The solution was to purchase a Co-Axial to optical adapter (~$20). Connect the Sony player to the adapter via a Co-Axial cable, then connect the adapter to WIIM with an optical cable (Toslink). Performance is good.
Thanks for doing the legwork on this. What type of signal does the WiiM show when you go this route? I imagine PCM of some flavor (176kHz comes to mind) Thanks!
 
I use a very cheap coax to optical adapter as well, as my CD transport only has coax out. No issues for me either. No idea how "clean" it is, but it seems to get the zeros and ones from point A to B (or I guess point C) without a discernable difference in quality. Those little converters aren't "reprocessing" anything, so I wouldn't expect it to induce jitter or otherwise reduce quality.
 
Using this player to play SACD and CD music. It's a relatively cheap SACD solution.
Sony provides only HDMI, HDMI sound (not ARC!) or Co-Axial outputs. WIIM Ultra HDMI ARC input won't work with these, and it does not have a Co-Axial input.
It's obvious that Sony had mainly a TV connection in mind that can provide HDMI ARC connection to a sound bar.
The solution was to purchase a Co-Axial to optical adapter (~$20). Connect the Sony player to the adapter via a Co-Axial cable, then connect the adapter to WIIM with an optical cable (Toslink). Performance is good.
My Pioneer bdp-170-k Sacd player also only has coaxial output, please, can you indicate the coax/optical converter you inserted?
Thank you!
 

Bi-Directional Digital Coaxial to/from SPDIF Optical (Toslink) Audio Converter with Fiber Optic and Coaxial Cable by ROOFULL (on Amazon)

 
I bought a coaxial/optical converter as recommended in this thread to connect my Bluray player. Everything works fine with CD. With bluray discs containing 24bit 192khz tracks they are displayed in the app 24/48 (?) and in addition the tracks at 192 I hear a high frequency background noise, if I change the track to 96 the noise disappears. The player is set to maximum bitstream frequency 192 Ultra set to maximum frequency. What's wrong?
 

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The player is set to maximum bitstream frequency 192 Ultra set to maximum frequency. What's wrong?
Sound to me like the converter doesn't exactly do what it says on the tin.

Is there anything specific in the manual you got with it? Maybe 192 kHz is input only?

PS:
Are you using the optical cable that came with the Ultra?
 
Sound to me like the converter doesn't exactly do what it says on the tin.

Is there anything specific in the manual you got with it? Maybe 192 kHz is input only?

PS:
Are you using the optical cable that came with the Ultra?
Tonight I'll look for the small converter manual, let's see what it says. Yes, the optical cable is the one supplied.
 
I bought a coaxial/optical converter as recommended in this thread to connect my Bluray player. Everything works fine with CD. With bluray discs containing 24bit 192khz tracks they are displayed in the app 24/48 (?) and in addition the tracks at 192 I hear a high frequency background noise, if I change the track to 96 the noise disappears. The player is set to maximum bitstream frequency 192 Ultra set to maximum frequency. What's wrong?
For copy protection reasons, I think that you cannot output 24/192 on the optical output.
 
Sound to me like the converter doesn't exactly do what it says on the tin.

Is there anything specific in the manual you got with it? Maybe 192 kHz is input only?

PS:
Are you using the optical cable that came with the Ultra?
Tonight I'll look for the small converter manual, let's see what it says. Yes, the optical cable is the one supplied.
This is the manual for the converter, I think it also outputs the frequency of 24/192. I could try selecting PCM output instead of bitstream in the player, but who would do the conversion? The bluray player or the ultra?
 

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This is the manual for the converter, I think it also outputs the frequency of 24/192. I could try selecting PCM output instead of bitstream in the player, but who would do the conversion? The bluray player or the ultra?
Unfortunately, this snippet from the manual (possibly the entire manual ;) ) doesn't tell exactly if 192 kHz is supported on inputs and outputs, but maybe it is.

I would definitely set the bdp-170 to PCM instead of Bitstream, to be on the safe side. It's the Blu-ray player managing the stream format. Most importantly I would once again recommend setting the input resolution of the WiiM Ultra's optical in to 24 bit 96 kHz. You won't be losing any perceivable sound quality. It will actually be an improvement if it removes the high frequency background noise.

Trying a different optical cable might or might not help. If it doesn't with the first replacement, how many others would you like to try out?
 
Unfortunately, this snippet from the manual (possibly the entire manual ;) ) doesn't tell exactly if 192 kHz is supported on inputs and outputs, but maybe it is.

I would definitely set the bdp-170 to PCM instead of Bitstream, to be on the safe side. It's the Blu-ray player managing the stream format. Most importantly I would once again recommend setting the input resolution of the WiiM Ultra's optical in to 24 bit 96 kHz. You won't be losing any perceivable sound quality. It will actually be an improvement if it removes the high frequency background noise.

Trying a different optical cable might or might not help. If it doesn't with the first replacement, how many others would you like to try out?
Thanks for the suggestions!
Tomorrow I will have more free time and I will do the tests as you recommended. I'll let you know! Thanks again😉
 
Update: Problem solved! I selected the PCM digital output from the Bdp-170 menu, the converter outputs perfectly and without noise in 24/192.
Thanks everyone for the advice.
Wiim ultra❤️
 

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Update: Problem solved! I selected the PCM digital output from the Bdp-170 menu, the converter outputs perfectly and without noise in 24/192.
Thanks everyone for the advice.
Wiim ultra❤️
This works for CD and BluRay (Stereo Tracks Only - or also DD5.1??)
What of SACD?? Can you play the SACD/DSD Layer - or only the Hybrid-CD Layer??
 
Using this player to play SACD and CD music. It's a relatively cheap SACD solution.
Sony provides only HDMI, HDMI sound (not ARC!) or Co-Axial outputs. WIIM Ultra HDMI ARC input won't work with these, and it does not have a Co-Axial input.
It's obvious that Sony had mainly a TV connection in mind that can provide HDMI ARC connection to a sound bar.
The solution was to purchase a Co-Axial to optical adapter (~$20). Connect the Sony player to the adapter via a Co-Axial cable, then connect the adapter to WIIM with an optical cable (Toslink). Performance is good.
Same question for the UBP-X800M2:
This works for CD and BluRay (Stereo Tracks Only - or also DD5.1??)
What of SACD?? Can you play the SACD/DSD Layer - or only the Hybrid-CD Layer??

(I own a X800M2, but would have some significant rewiring to do as it is on my AVR System not my Stereo System.)
 
Same question for the UBP-X800M2:
This works for CD and BluRay (Stereo Tracks Only - or also DD5.1??)
What of SACD?? Can you play the SACD/DSD Layer - or only the Hybrid-CD Layer??

(I own a X800M2, but would have some significant rewiring to do as it is on my AVR System not my Stereo System.)
You will not get actual DSD audio from any digital output on the X800M2 (Sony only allows DSD to be transported via HDMI only because it is encrypted - remember DSD/SACD is a Sony invention and holds the patent and all rights). HOWEVER, the X800M2 will convert the DSD/SACD audio to PCM which is available at the digital output (the coax out on the 800), I believe.
 
This works for CD and BluRay (Stereo Tracks Only - or also DD5.1??)
What of SACD?? Can you play the SACD/DSD Layer - or only the Hybrid-CD Layer??
The only track I couldn't hear was a SACD disc, the app says PCM 24/88 but there is no sound from the speakers. It's definitely a restriction issue.
 
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