Features wanted in a Wiim Ultra 2

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I like my Wiim Ultra but would love to see the following in an updated version:
- A DAC chip one step up, like in the Amp Ultra
- XLR balanced out
- 4 or 5 inch screen
- Better pop and noise reduction via HDMI and Optical In
- No need for Phono In or Headphone Out
- All the other I/O ports can stay the same

This would be my dream DAC/media streamer and preamp.

What would you like in an altered version 2?
 
I like my Wiim Ultra but would love to see the following in an updated version:
- A DAC chip one step up, like in the Amp Ultra
- XLR balanced out
- 4 or 5 inch screen
- Better pop and noise reduction via HDMI and Optical In
- No need for Phono In or Headphone Out
- All the other I/O ports can stay the same

This would be my dream DAC/media streamer and preamp.

What would you like in an altered version 2?
Nothing. I don't need anything listed and I do use Phono and headphones.

Let us get issues in current implementation fixed first.
 
- 4 or 5 inch screen
In order to include a 5 inch screen, the unit would need to be at least 1 inch higher than the current Ultra, but this would also make more room available on the rear panel for additional sockets.

I wouldn't want XLR balanced, but would like to keep all of the current inputs/outputs, and add an additional Line In, Optical In, and add a Coax In.

Another useful addition would be a Tape In/Out Loop.
 
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A DAC chip one step up,
And which one? And how will it affect the price? Besides, this could start a dispute about which company. )))

I would suggest as my wish AKM4499EX, or better yet two.
I would like some movement towards sound, for example, a linear power supply could help.
Good operational amplifiers.

Such a model can be called not "ultra", but "ultimate".


In order to include a 5 inch screen, the unit would need to be at least 1 inch higher than the current Ultra

Remove the volume control knob and make the screen longer, then there will be room for info and pictures.
 
Most middle to high end DAC-chips are not so expensive anymore. Why not go for the ROHM BD34352EKV that SMSL now use in its D1 DAC for $80. It is transparent (meaning "bare wire" without coloration). The other components inside are more important to secure good enough S/N-ratio and SINAD . Even OPA1612 op amps are cheap and used in many bargain products today.
 
Remove the volume control knob and make the screen longer, then there will be room for info and pictures.
That's actually a great idea.

We will need a reset button on the back then but else everything can be controlled from the screen, if the functions and look & feel gets improved over the current Ultra.
 
Being the volume knob the only thing I dislike about the ultra , it would be better to have a bigger screen , the volume could be controlled form it like the NAD M10
 
Ok,

Ultra 2 as OP requested.

But in addition,

Ultra Transport - no DAC, no preamp, no screen. Top notch USB port, shielded/filtered power supply.
 
NOS DAC.
Balanced Out and Sub-out (XLR).
Improved preamp capable of competing with Schiit Kara in terms of gain and sound quality.
More powerful DSP, more PEQ.
Wifi 7.
 
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In order to include a 5 inch screen, the unit would need to be at least 1 inch higher than the current Ultra, but this would also make more room available on the rear panel for additional sockets.

I wouldn't want XLR balanced, but would like to keep all of the current inputs/outputs, and add an additional Line In, Optical In, and add a Coax In.
Another useful addition would be a Tape In/Out Loop.
It’s always xlr balanced being requested when it does not improve sound quality. It matters if they running a long distance but amp and streamer are next to each other for most setup. We have too many rookie in this forum.
 
NOS DAC.
Balanced Out and Sub-out (XLR).
Improved preamp capable of competing with Schiit Kara in terms of gain and sound quality.
More powerful DSP, more PEQ.
Wifi 7.
😆 wifi 7? They haven’t activated wifi 6e let alone wifi 7.
 
Re: XLR outputs - here are the pros and cons provided by Gemini 2.5 Pro when prompted with:

"Please research and provide the pros and cons of having XLR balanced outputs in the Wiim Ultra replacement"

Response:
The Pros and Cons of XLR Balanced Outputs in a Potential WiiM Ultra Successor
The WiiM Ultra, a feature-rich audio streamer, notably omits XLR balanced outputs, a decision that has sparked debate among audio enthusiasts. While the current model relies on RCA, coaxial, optical, and USB connections, the inclusion of XLR outputs in a future replacement would present a distinct set of advantages and disadvantages.

The Upside: Superior Signal Integrity and Professional Connectivity
The primary advantage of XLR balanced outputs lies in their ability to reject noise and interference. This is achieved by sending the audio signal on two separate wires with opposite polarity. At the receiving end, any noise picked up along the cable is common to both signals and is canceled out, resulting in a cleaner, quieter signal. This is particularly beneficial in environments with significant electromagnetic interference or when using long cable runs, where the risk of audible hum or buzz is higher.

For users with high-end audio setups, especially those employing power amplifiers or active speakers that feature XLR inputs, the inclusion of native XLR outputs on a WiiM Ultra successor would offer a more direct and potentially higher-fidelity connection. The locking mechanism of XLR connectors also provides a more secure and robust physical connection compared to standard RCA plugs.

The Downside: Increased Cost and Diminishing Returns in Typical Setups
The most significant drawback of incorporating XLR outputs is the increased manufacturing cost. The additional circuitry required for a true balancedd output would inevitably translate to a higher retail price for the consumer.

Furthermore, for the majority of home audio enthusiasts, the practical benefits of XLR outputs may be negligible. In typical listening environments with relatively short cable runs (under 10-15 feet), the noise-rejecting properties of balanced connections often do not yield a discernible audible improvement over well-shielded RCA cables. The existing outputs on the WiiM Ultra are more than capable of delivering a high-quality, noise-free signal in most residential settings. The decision to include XLR would therefore cater to a more niche segment of the audiophile market, potentially alienating budget-conscious consumers who have been a core part of WiiM's success.
 
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