Introducing the WiiM Edition of the Audio Pro A10 MKII and C10 MKII

[cybergrimes]

This is obviously a design decision deliberately taken by Audio Pro and WiiM did not change it.

Feels more like a software oversight than design choice.

If it’s a choice then I expect next Amp product to have two volume dials, one each for L and R channels.

 

[conn]

Your right about this.

My feeling is that there are not enough "Paired" speaker users and not a huge hype/demand for Audio Pro speakers at this present time judging by reviews on Amazon, sales of Audio Pro speakers themselves (only amazon sells them here in US, or buy direct) and general discussions in the forums, etc...

I've already unpaired my A10's, replace with a single C10 MKII and will move on without the notion of pairing Audio Pro's at this point.

 

[conn]

Feels more like an oversight than design choice.

If it’s a choice then I expect next Amp product to have two volume dials, one each for L and R channels.

It's an oversight, there's no logic to it.... Lol...

 

[harkpabst]

Feels more like a software oversight than design choice.

If it’s a choice then I expect next Amp product to have two volume dials, one each for L and R channels.

Yes, feelings can differ a lot ...

Double LOL.

 

[cybergrimes]

My feeling is that there are not enough "Paired" speaker users and not a huge hype/demand for Audio Pro speakers at this present time judging by reviews on Amazon, sales of Audio Pro speakers themselves (only amazon sells them here in US, or buy direct) and general discussions in the forums, etc...

I've already unpaired my A10's, replace with a single C10 MKII and will move on without the notion of pairing Audio Pro's at this point.

I’m holding out buying a second A10 for our kitchen until this is changed. Nobody in my house is going to whip out phone to change volume while active in kitchen and it’s silly to walk across room to adjust both.

 

[cybergrimes]

Yes, feelings can differ a lot ...

Double LOL.

“Feels like” being an expression for stating a guess or opinion, a hypothesis.

But yeah, cool, thanks for adding.

 

[conn]

I’m holding out buying a second A10 for our kitchen until this is changed. Nobody in my house is going to whip out phone to change volume while active in kitchen and it’s silly to walk across room to adjust both.

I had to explain to my wife why I removed the "new" pair of speakers that replaced the Sonos One's... Trying to explain the volume thing I could tell she didn't give a damn or even understand.... That's why I went with a single C10, trying to keep it simple.

 

[wiimamp user]

I’m holding out buying a second A10 for our kitchen until this is changed. Nobody in my house is going to whip out phone to change volume while active in kitchen and it’s silly to walk across room to adjust both.

But is it really that big of a problem?
I mean to take the phone out?
Maybe for most it isn't I assume..
Maybe the logical thing is just take the phone it solves the problem quickly..

Maybe they can fix what you're asking for..but not right now.
But you can ask Wiim. Ithink if you ask.. they will answer if they can.

 

[cybergrimes]

But is it really that big of a problem?

Yes. I’m doing dishes or preparing dinner it’s a lot easier to tap a volume button and continue my task than take out phone, open app, etc.

It was kind of the appeal of speakers with physical buttons in the first place.

 

[wiimamp user]

Yes. I’m doing dishes or preparing dinner it’s a lot easier to tap a volume button and continue my task than take out phone, open app, etc.

I understand you.
But still I think for most it isn't a issue I assume.
If I may speak for myself it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

But that doesn't mean I don't understand you. I respect your opinion..i think of you ask Wiim they are willing to implement this..if its possible.

 

[conn]

But is it really that big of a problem?
I mean to take the phone out?
Maybe for most it isn't I assume..

Maybe they can fix what you're asking for..but not right now.
But you can ask Wiim I think if you ask they will answer if they can.

"But is it really that big of a problem?
I mean to take the phone out?"

I've always hated having to rely on the phone for every, single, freaking, thing.... I think this is a major problem with Multi Room audio and has been.... The reliance on the cell phone and lack of a >>DEDICATED DEVICE TO CONTROL THE RADIO<<

It's like, would you use your phone to heat up something in the microwave? Or use the phone turn on water at the sink???

I have 5 people in my home... None of them control the music because they don't know how or even care to know how.... They don't want to sit there and fiddle with the app & Spotify and grouping,etc.... It goes on, you guys know this. Just turn on music, move on... Even voice control is problematic...

Working, physical buttons are important as well as less reliance on the damn phone....

 

[wiimamp user]

"But is it really that big of a problem?
I mean to take the phone out?"

I've always hated having to rely on the phone for every, single, freaking, thing.... I think this is a major problem with Multi Room audio and has been.... The reliance on the cell phone and lack of a >>DEDICATED DEVICE TO CONTROL THE RADIO<<

It's like, would you use your phone to heat up something in the microwave? Or use the phone turn on water at the sink???

I have 5 people in my home... None of them control the music because they don't know how or even care to know how.... They don't want to sit there and fiddle with the app & Spotify and grouping,etc.... It goes on, you guys know this. Just turn on music, move on... Even voice control is problematic...

Working, physical buttons are important as well as less reliance on the damn phone....

I can understand what you mean.
But they never promised it would work this would work..did they? That's a thing I would be annoyed if they did.
But I think Audiopro,Wiim can also rely on what you are saying..
So i would say contact them and i hope they can make it happen for their customers.

 

[wiimamp user]

You say it would be logical if it worked this way.
Explain it to Audiopro, Wiim maybe they agree and logically they will make it happen.

 

[slartibartfast]

Using the hardware buttons?

I thought so but I have just tried it and it doesn't matter if you choose to sync volume or not, each volume control is independent. I suspect it might be a bug though so I'll ask on the Lyrion forum.

 

[conn]

I can understand what you mean.
But they never promised it would work this would work..did they? That's a thing I would be annoyed if they did.
But I think Audiopro,Wiim can also rely on what you are saying..
So i would say contact them and i hope they can make it happen for their customers.

Folks, it's not like this is a "special" feature here..... I would consider this a Common sense operation.

About 6 years ago I had these BT speakers from LG called the LG BOOM, PK7's.... They were only Bluetooth and could be paired in stereo between two of them.

Guess how the volume behaved if you adjusted it on either speaker between the pair? I simply would not have expected the volume to behave in any other way, whichever physical button was used it controlled the volume between the pair.

Very basic operation..

 

[conn]

You say it would be logical if it worked this way.
Explain it to Audiopro, Wiim maybe they agree and logically they will make it happen.

Honestly if they didn't implement this from the start then they are not on the same page....

 

[wiimamp user]

Folks, it's not like this is a "special" feature here..... I would consider this a Common sense operation.

About 6 years ago I had these BT speakers from LG called the LG BOOM, PK7's.... They were only Bluetooth and could be paired in stereo between two of them.

Guess how the volume behaved if you adjusted it on either speaker between the pair? I simply would not have expected the volume to behave in any other way, whichever physical button was used it controlled the volume between the pair.

Very basic operation..

How about the WiFi speakers from Sonos did they work this way?
If LG,Sonos can do it why won't audipro, Wiim??

 

[conn]

I can understand what you mean.
But they never promised it would work this would work..did they? That's a thing I would be annoyed if they did.
But I think Audiopro,Wiim can also rely on what you are saying..
So i would say contact them and i hope they can make it happen for their customers.

"That's a thing I would be annoyed if they did."

Maybe you can clarify to us why physical, individual volume control is a GOOD thing for a pair of speakers in stereo? Then I could get better understating of the logic behind this implementation as It does not apply to any other listening situation...

Do you adjust headphones independently? What about Bookshelf speakers? Every powered pair I see has only one knob.... Driving in the car?
Home theater surround sound system?

Imagine if someone walks up to a stereo pair of A10's to adjust the volume and you have to say "hey, don't forget to adjust each one independently and make sure you get the balance correct" Good luck with that....

 

[conn]

How about the WiFi speakers from Sonos did they work this way?
If LG,Sonos can do it why won't audipro, Wiim??

They absolutely did and I have mentioned that a few times already which is why I expected these Audio Pro's to operate the same way.

 

[cybergrimes]

Yeah Sonos absolutely does this. I might stereo pair a couple HomePod Mini today to see how they behave. Just for curiosity sake.