It’s supposed to be a subjective review so it makes no difference whether you are a layman or not.a person without professional or specialized knowledge in a particular subject.
It’s supposed to be a subjective review so it makes no difference whether you are a layman or not.a person without professional or specialized knowledge in a particular subject.
You get what you pay for. Do you expect 5 star on sub 100? If mini sound same as ultra, then there’s no point shelling out extra cash.That sounds like rather perverse marketing to me - come buy my two star product!! Nobody would…
Neither has it any merit. The Mini when used with its onboard DAC might be considered 2 star but when the output is optical …..That sounds like rather perverse marketing to me - come buy my two star product!! Nobody would…
My point was if the other product was measured really good even untrained ear could hear the difference. In audio world we use all these wording not being use in daily words.It’s supposed to be a subjective review so it makes no difference whether you are a layman or not.
I appreciate English is not your native language but whether someone has any audiophile knowledge or not is totally irrelevant to subjective review. An individual either perceives one thing as better than another or not. He/she needs no specialist knowledge to reach that view.My point was if the other product was measured really good even untrained ear could hear the difference. In audio world we use all these wording not being use in daily words.
whutI think wiim should put how many star on each its devices based on measurements so the buyer knows what their getting on their purchase. Let say, their top end ultra get 5 and mini get 2. That’s just an example.
What make no sense you don’t know what you’re talking about. All these products are streamers with built in dac inside. You connect mini to amp and you do the same on ultra. You listen to both of them and you think both would sound same? We’re talking about sq not feature sets. This is what I’m talking about star quality not feature set but sq.whutmakes 0 sense... Completely different products for different situations and most importantly for very different prices.
Funny you should say that...You get what you pay for. Do you expect 5 star on sub 100? If mini sound same as ultra, then there’s no point shelling out extra cash.
When you do that, all those devices are just digital transport and the external dac does the decoding and should not hear difference. What I’m stating was mini connect its analog out straight to amp so does the ultra. This should you hear the dac built in each unit. The better spec should be audible even you don’t have golden ear. The extra money buys you connections, better analog stage and higher quality dac chipset.Funny you should say that...
I ran a mini, pro and ultra all optical out to the same dac / hp amp for a few hours of comparison.
And I'm certain I wouldn't be able to tell them apart if I wasn't looking.
However, each unit has differentiators for why you might buy one over any other.
(I realise you were probably referring to the analog out. Yes, imo the mini and pro are pretty woeful in that regard.)
If they sound same, that means their design was copied and could be patent lawsuit infringement.
This is the subjective thread so people are allowed to believe any nonsense. If someone says that the earth is flat then you are not allowed to disagree!I don't want to be rude but that doesn't make much sense...
In that case why bother with star ratings when they are already classified by the price?When you do that, all those devices are just digital transport and the external dac does the decoding and should not hear difference. What I’m stating was mini connect its analog out straight to amp so does the ultra. This should you hear the dac built in each unit. The better spec should be audible even you don’t have golden ear. The extra money buys you connections, better analog stage and higher quality dac chipset.
Can they also say that if DACs sound the same they could be infringing patents?This is the subjective thread so people are allowed to believe any nonsense. If someone says that the earth is flat then you are not allowed to disagree!
A very interesting video on this topic (objectivity vs. subjectivity / measurements vs. listening impressions):
Not all buyers think same. Mini would be 5 star if comparing same class from competition. The indicator would help them see and decide how much better if they pay more.In that case why bother with star ratings when they are already classified by the price?![]()
Wow really cable is musical? Audioholic which based on measurements from audio precision would disagree.A very interesting video on this topic (objectivity vs. subjectivity / measurements vs. listening impressions):