Meet WiiM Ultra - The Digital Hub for Your Music

[Brantome]

Is there anyway to use this with my WiiM amp?

What - the ultra or room correction? Guess you could use the ultra with your Amp (but why?) and room correction is currently in beta for the Amp.

 

[harkpabst]

Is there anyway to use this with my WiiM amp?

The Amp does a lot (but not everything) the Ultra does. For the Ultra you just need a simple power amplifier without all the streaming features of the Amp, because the Ultra already has those features.

Technically it would be doable, but doesn't make much sense.

 

[Melodius Thunk]

The Amp does a lot (but not everything) the Ultra does. For the Ultra you just need a simple power amplifier without all the streaming features of the Amp, because the Ultra already has those features.

Technically it would be doable, but doesn't make.much sense.

No. Can I amplify the WiiM Ultra with the WiiM Amp? I don”t care about room correction.

 

[pieterv1]

No. Can I amplify the WiiM Ultra with the WiiM Amp? I don”t care about room correction.

Obviously you can run the WiiM Ultra into the WiiM Amp's RCA input. Unless you already own the WiiM Amp and really want the Ultra for a few extra features like the screen and phono stage, I'm not sure why you'd want to go with this setup as others have stated: you need just a simple (power)amplifier, maybe with a trigger input or detection of incoming audio.

 

[Brantome]

Obviously you can run the WiiM Ultra into the WiiM Amp's RCA input. Unless you already own the WiiM Amp and really want the Ultra for a few extra features like the screen and phono stage, I'm not sure why you'd want to go with this setup as others have stated: you need just a simple (power)amplifier, maybe with a trigger input or detection of incoming audio.

If you were to do that, then you’d be using the DAC in the Ultra and the DAC in the Amp as it digitises its analog inputs. If you used the optical out from the Ultra you wouldn’t be using its DAC, just the Amp’s, so as you say, all the Ultra would be offering is its display and potentially its phono stage, but again if it’s the latter that’s needed, you’d probably get a better and cheaper phono stage than what the Ultra costs…

 

[Melodius Thunk]

If you were to do that, then you’d be using the DAC in the Ultra and the DAC in the Amp as it digitises its analog inputs. If you used the optical out from the Ultra you wouldn’t be using its DAC, just the Amp’s, so as you say, all the Ultra would be offering is its display and potentially its phono stage, but again if it’s the latter that’s needed, you’d probably get a better and cheaper phono stage than what the Ultra costs…

Thanks. I already own the WiiM Amp. I am interested in the Ultra for the screen. I’ll probably just wait for an Amp Ultra.

 

[cc_rider]

FCC Approval done. This puppy should be hitting the stores very soon.

FCC ID 2BABF-ASR004

fcc.report

 

[pieterv1]

If you were to do that, then you’d be using the DAC in the Ultra and the DAC in the Amp as it digitises its analog inputs. If you used the optical out from the Ultra you wouldn’t be using its DAC, just the Amp’s, so as you say, all the Ultra would be offering is its display and potentially its phono stage, but again if it’s the latter that’s needed, you’d probably get a better and cheaper phono stage than what the Ultra costs…

Ah yes I hadn't thought about optical it's probably better - to keep the audio in the digital domain to connect to the amp.

 

[Roaming]

Hi WiiM Community!

Meet the WiiM Ultra – the centerpiece of your audio setup that's here to make your music experience better than ever. With top-notch components and a user-friendly design, it's not just a music streamer – it's your go-to for bringing high-quality sound into your home. Whether you've got powered speakers, amps, turntables, TVs, headphones, AV receivers, subwoofers, smart speakers, Bluetooth speakers and more, it's ready to go with Hi-Res streaming, room correction, and easy integration with your smart home gadgets and more.

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WiiM Ultra will be available for $329 in Q3 2024, first on Amazon and selected retailers in the US and later internationally. We'll make a formal announcement when it is available for purchase on Amazon.com.

Please see below for the full specs of the WiiM Ultra. We hope you'll love this new product!

Highlights

• Premium 32-bit/384kHz ES9038 Q2M SABRE DAC, and high fidelity headphone amplifier TPA6120A2
• Latest Wi-Fi 6E and BT 5.3 with two antennas offering rock-solid Bluetooth or Wi-Fi audio streaming
• Elegant aluminum case with 3.5” vibrant touchscreen display covered with glass
• Built-in room correction takes precise acoustic measurements of your room, creating customized corrections for your speaker and subwoofer.
• Stream Hi-Res music with the bit-perfect digital output or high-fidelity analog audio (SNR>120dB, THD+N<0.00018%)
• Versatile streaming options including Spotify Connect, TIDAL Connect, AirPlay 2, Google Chromecast Audio (CastLite), Alexa built-in, DLNA, Roon (in cert), and Squeezelite, and all streaming services currently in the WiiM Home App.
• Gapless playback of Hi-Res music up to 24-bit/192 kHz using USB, SPDIF, Coax, Line, and Headphone output.

Tech Specs

• Audio input
  • Bring your TV audio, recorder player, CD player, or another audio source into the digital world via either analog (RCA, Phono) or digital (Optical, HDMI ARC) port, up to 24-bit/192 kHz
• Audio output
  • Through either analog (RCA, Headphone) or digital (Coax, Optical, USB) for connecting an amplifier or speaker
  • Wireless to another BT or DLNA receiver
  • Up to 192 kHz/ 24-bit, varying sample rate, and bit depth based on the audio source without resampling via Line out, Headphone, USB Coax, and Optical SPDIF
  • Line out
    • Maximum output: 2.1V RMS
    • SNR: 121 dB (A-wt)
    • THD+N (1 kHz): 0.00018% (-115 dB) for 44.1k to 192k
    • FR curve: +/- 0.05 dB
• EQ
  • Tailor your audio experience with versatile and independent EQ settings for each input source – HDMI, Optical, Line, Phono, BT, or Network.
  • Access a robust suite of sound customization options, including 24 preset EQ settings, a 10-band graphic EQ, and an 10-band parametric EQ for precise sound adjustments.
• Subwoofer output
  • Comprehensive bass management.
  • Adjustable crossover frequency, level, phase, and latency.
• 12 V Trigger
  • Automatically turns on your stereo receiver or amplifier
• Connectivity and power
  • 100-240V AC input.
  • Wi-Fi 6E, 802.11 b/g/n/ax 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, and 6 GHz triple bands.
  • Bluetooth 5.3 with BLE and BT LE Audio, supports both A2DP receiver and transmitter, AVRCP, HID, works with the WiiM voice remote.
  • Ethernet, 10M/100 Mbps.
• USB Host for Storage – Access personal media library and use it as a media server for other WiiM and DLNA devices
• Glass-covered 3.5” vibrant touchscreen display:
  • Displays App widgets, large album pictures, playback control, playing queue, presets, EQ, audio input and output, and device settings
  • Guides users through the Out-of-Box Experience and firmware updates
  • Provides feedback when there’s a change in the play mode
  • Allows users to customize the wallpaper and display the time and date during standby mode
• Physical
  • Dimensions: 8.1 x 8.1 x 2.9 inches (205 x 205 x 73 mm)
  • Weight: 2.9 pounds (1.3 kg)
  • LED: 4 Color RGBW LED indicates the device status
  • LCD touch screen: 3.5”
  • Volume knob: Adjust volume and play/pause button with glass cover.

If you have any questions about WiiM Ultra please post it in the spreadsheet link below:
Questions about WiiM Ultra

 

[harkpabst]

Is there anything you'd like to add or ask, @Roaming?

 

[Roaming]

I was hoping that the Ultra was a Streamer with a screen for those who do not use phones, but I see that it is only a preamp with streaming ability. Unfortunately it is not compatible for integration into my system. I wonder if WiiM will be coming out with a streamer with a screen that doesn't really on phones and has RCA, COAX, TOSLINK connections andcan be run on WiFi or hard-wired (Ethernet)?

 

[Roaming]

Is there anything you'd like to add or ask, @Roaming?

Sorry I did not see this post. I posted separately below.

 

[Brantome]

I was hoping that the Ultra was a Streamer with a screen for those who do not use phones, but I see that it is only a preamp with streaming ability. Unfortunately it is not compatible for integration into my system. I wonder if WiiM will be coming out with a streamer with a screen that doesn't really on phones and has RCA, COAX, TOSLINK connections andcan be run on WiFi or hard-wired (Ethernet)?

I’d very much doubt that they’d release a streamer that doesn’t rely on a mobile phone or tablet to set up

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

I’d very much doubt that they’d release a streamer that doesn’t rely on a mobile phone or tablet to set up

“They”, or indeed anyone.

 

[Roaming]

I’d very much doubt that they’d release a streamer that doesn’t rely on a mobile phone or tablet to set up

Sadly, that makes sense. I don't mind needing a phone or tablet to "Set Up", but for operating, no thanks. I miss my old Logitech Squeezebox Touch. I still have it, but it no longer gets Spotify and many other services. I use streaming for research and background music on occasion. I don't formally listen. For that I go to vinyl or CD, but streaming is invaluable for research! I have a preamp and don't need another or a different one. I don't think I will ever find a compatible streamer, nobody makes them. All I have is an Alexa and that is a pain to use for this. Of course, I have my PC, but it is not movable and I also don't want to be chained to that.

 

[BrooklynNick]

Sadly, that makes sense. I don't mind needing a phone or tablet to "Set Up", but for operating, no thanks. I miss my old Logitech Squeezebox Touch. I still have it, but it no longer gets Spotify and many other services. I use streaming for research and background music on occasion. I don't formally listen. For that I go to vinyl or CD, but streaming is invaluable for research! I have a preamp and don't need another or a different one. I don't think I will ever find a compatible streamer, nobody makes them. All I have is an Alexa and that is a pain to use for this. Of course, I have my PC, but it is not movable and I also don't want to be chained to that.

If you do not have a phone, you may not be able to use the Wiim since it needs it for setup and updates. However, there are a lot of streamers on the market and most let you set the volume output to fixed (at 0 dB). So, when you say no one makes a "compatible streamer," it is not clear what you mean by "compatible." You can certainly use a Wiim device, and others, with a pre-amp.

 

[pieterv1]

I was hoping that the Ultra was a Streamer with a screen for those who do not use phones, but I see that it is only a preamp with streaming ability. Unfortunately it is not compatible for integration into my system. I wonder if WiiM will be coming out with a streamer with a screen that doesn't really on phones and has RCA, COAX, TOSLINK connections andcan be run on WiFi or hard-wired (Ethernet)?

Something that runs Android like the Fiio R7 or Eversolo DMP-A6 is probably what you want

The WiiM Ultra is not much different from the other WiiM devices. It's OS is closed and some stripped down version of Linux, with the functions/options accessible on its touchscreen.

 

[Brantome]

I’m sure the LMS aficionados will jump in, but I understood that since the demise of squeezebox.com, you can set up your own local LMS (on an raspberry pi for example)and continue to use your squeezebox touch. Also, all WiiM devices bar the Mini have an inbuilt Squeezelite client and support output from LMS.

 

[slartibartfast]

Sadly, that makes sense. I don't mind needing a phone or tablet to "Set Up", but for operating, no thanks. I miss my old Logitech Squeezebox Touch. I still have it, but it no longer gets Spotify and many other services. I use streaming for research and background music on occasion. I don't formally listen. For that I go to vinyl or CD, but streaming is invaluable for research! I have a preamp and don't need another or a different one. I don't think I will ever find a compatible streamer, nobody makes them. All I have is an Alexa and that is a pain to use for this. Of course, I have my PC, but it is not movable and I also don't want to be chained to that.

Hang on why does your Squeezebox Touch no longer get Spotify? It will if you run an LMS server.

 

[Roaming]

If you do not have a phone, you may not be able to use the Wiim since it needs it for setup and updates. However, there are a lot of steamers on the market and most let you set the volume output to fixed (at 0 dB). So, when you say no one makes a "compatible streamer," it is not clear what you mean by "compatible." You can certainly use a Wiim device, and others, with a pre-amp.

I have a phone, but only 2GB data, I don't use it for that, I can't operate it in that way. I have a tablet, so both can be used for "setup", but not daily operation because they would go dead half way through an album as they do not hold charge long.
by "compatible" I mean just a streamer that I can integrate into my component system, not an amp, preamp, phono stage, and everything else I already have and don't need to swap out. For example, I can't integrate the Ultra into my system because it is a full preamp and will override or I would need to swap out my existing preamp and phono stage and everything.