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My WiiM Amp tests, chapter 2
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I think Wiim is still a young company, and probably smaller than its competition.
This product is also their first integrated amp, and fifth product in total.
So holding them up to the same standards as companies that have been in business for decades, have 10 times the workforce and sell products with an equivalent set of features for 2 or 3 times the asking price is a bit absurd, in my opinion.
Yes, the fact that early adopters are de facto beta testers is irritating. But Wiim is hardy the only company doing this nowadays. And at least they play fair and offer replacements without arguing.
If you don't like it, you always have the options of waiting a couple of months, or shopping somewhere else and pay the price asked by longer established brands.
This product is also their first integrated amp, and fifth product in total.
So holding them up to the same standards as companies that have been in business for decades, have 10 times the workforce and sell products with an equivalent set of features for 2 or 3 times the asking price is a bit absurd, in my opinion.
Yes, the fact that early adopters are de facto beta testers is irritating. But Wiim is hardy the only company doing this nowadays. And at least they play fair and offer replacements without arguing.
If you don't like it, you always have the options of waiting a couple of months, or shopping somewhere else and pay the price asked by longer established brands.
Their strong skills in comparison to other was their software. They turn mini from it was released to feature sets streamer. Other has top notch hardware but lack in software so they can’t turn top range hardware into monumental power house.
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Hi Team,
I've been closely following the discussions here and would like to address some of the concerns raised about our products, particularly our latest WiiM Amp.
Firstly, I want to express our sincere gratitude for the support and feedback from our early adopters. Your trust in choosing WiiM is something we deeply value. It's crucial to clarify that we do not treat our early adopters as beta testers. Our commitment is to deliver a product that meets high standards from day one. The humming noise issue reported by a minimal number of users has been identified as a quality control variation, which we are diligently working to rectify. This is not a widespread problem, and our team is dedicated to resolving any such issues promptly and efficiently.
Regarding our production and supply chain, the overwhelming demand for our products has indeed surpassed our initial expectations. This is a testament to the growing interest in high-quality, feature-rich streaming amplifiers at an accessible price point. We are actively working to scale our production capabilities to meet this demand and ensure availability across all channels, including in Germany and other markets.
It's true, WiiM is a relatively young company compared to some industry giants. Our team size and years in the market might not match those of established brands, but our passion, innovation, and dedication to bringing cutting-edge connected audio technology at an affordable price are unwavering. We see this as an opportunity to be nimble, responsive, and innovative – qualities that larger companies often struggle to maintain.
We understand that with any new product, especially from a growing company, there can be apprehensions. We encourage those who prefer to wait and see to do so. Our goal is not just to sell a product but to build a community of satisfied customers who feel they've made the right choice with WiiM.
To our early adopters and to those considering WiiM, know that we are here, listening, and constantly improving. Your feedback drives us, and your satisfaction is our top priority. Thank you for being a part of our journey.
I've been closely following the discussions here and would like to address some of the concerns raised about our products, particularly our latest WiiM Amp.
Firstly, I want to express our sincere gratitude for the support and feedback from our early adopters. Your trust in choosing WiiM is something we deeply value. It's crucial to clarify that we do not treat our early adopters as beta testers. Our commitment is to deliver a product that meets high standards from day one. The humming noise issue reported by a minimal number of users has been identified as a quality control variation, which we are diligently working to rectify. This is not a widespread problem, and our team is dedicated to resolving any such issues promptly and efficiently.
Regarding our production and supply chain, the overwhelming demand for our products has indeed surpassed our initial expectations. This is a testament to the growing interest in high-quality, feature-rich streaming amplifiers at an accessible price point. We are actively working to scale our production capabilities to meet this demand and ensure availability across all channels, including in Germany and other markets.
It's true, WiiM is a relatively young company compared to some industry giants. Our team size and years in the market might not match those of established brands, but our passion, innovation, and dedication to bringing cutting-edge connected audio technology at an affordable price are unwavering. We see this as an opportunity to be nimble, responsive, and innovative – qualities that larger companies often struggle to maintain.
We understand that with any new product, especially from a growing company, there can be apprehensions. We encourage those who prefer to wait and see to do so. Our goal is not just to sell a product but to build a community of satisfied customers who feel they've made the right choice with WiiM.
To our early adopters and to those considering WiiM, know that we are here, listening, and constantly improving. Your feedback drives us, and your satisfaction is our top priority. Thank you for being a part of our journey.
You win by transparent talk.
Esp in case of problems, and sitting on a Saturday and answering makes me convinced that there is a will, and love for the product by Wiim.
Yes, it might have gone a little wrong in the beginning. But it is adversity that makes you strong.
If you are skeptical about the product, you can go for well-proven units.
There are plenty of products on the market, often with a completely different price tag. For me, I was driven by curiosity for something new.
I believe in you, and you are well on your way. Thanks Wiim team.
Esp in case of problems, and sitting on a Saturday and answering makes me convinced that there is a will, and love for the product by Wiim.
Yes, it might have gone a little wrong in the beginning. But it is adversity that makes you strong.
If you are skeptical about the product, you can go for well-proven units.
There are plenty of products on the market, often with a completely different price tag. For me, I was driven by curiosity for something new.
I believe in you, and you are well on your way. Thanks Wiim team.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree with you about this. The product for me has been outstanding and to have a company available to listen to input and provide support this readily is much better than most these days.
So, they made a great product and sold out quickly doesn't mean the product wasn't ready for launch.
That's my perception of the product and support provided. May not be the same for everyone.
I remember that I said to @Brantome that the Amp is a premature product. That was after my first tests and measurements when we were not yet allowed to publish anything. I will stay with this conclusion especially now, when I'm in the middle of testing an improved version, which is IMO the one which should have been released instead.
Of course this is my perspective related to my role here - test and measure.
Of course this is my perspective related to my role here - test and measure.
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Ver 5 is the one that really ready for prime time. Wiim Ultra will be out soon. I will check your measurements on that before placing an order. Thank you for your effort and all the users on this forum benefits on your measurements.
I think so.
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Hi Achim1811,
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I understand your concerns about what might seem like 'marketing speech,' and I appreciate your honesty. It's important to us at WiiM that we communicate transparently and authentically with our community.
Regarding the readiness of our Amp, I assure you that every decision we make about product launches is carefully considered. While we strive for perfection, the complexities of technology development sometimes lead to unexpected challenges, a reality many companies face. Our priority has always been, and will continue to be, to deliver high-quality products and to address any issues swiftly and effectively.
I hope this provides some clarity on our approach and commitment. We value your feedback as it helps us grow and improve.
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Just because something may measure “better”, it doesn’t mean it will “sound” better. I’d suggest you review this thread and its precursor for any areas where audibility was mentioned as being impacted.
Are you unhappy with how your Amp currently sounds?
Not at all. It’s purely subjective but still leaves a bitter taste.
They are driving my Focal Aria 906 quite well.
No, no... Okay, I'm not an audiophile, but I really can't hear any difference between my first one, and my replacement.
There are possibly measurable results with right tools, but I am unable to hear changes between versions. On the other hand, I just enjoy and don't look for more faults than necessary.
Except that the last version is completely silent and no humming noise for me.
P.s
I'm still so interested that I'm sitting with speakers that are Elsinore, with two subwoofers Sdx15 mk2 with hypex ds 8.0.
in the precise case of the machine tested by onlyoneme we were not in the case of a slightly disappointing machine or just the quibblers by observing the measurements (certainly it is only a minisystem) found fault, but of a broken machine. ..
as a reminder there have been cross
-cases of noise...
-of extreme heat ...
-more serious: reboot following contact and "electrostatic shock" (yourself)...
counterfires like "nothing is heard" "nothing seriously".... "just a few machines" (while reading the forums we can see that there are many problem cases") we were rather counterproductive...
just 4 reviewers frequenting here (out of 4? ) and having received machines from wiim we had some problems...onlyoneme darko archim and yourself...statistically...that's out of 4...not bad right?
the situation seems to be behind us with new series..but it will take time to purify and reassure
I was talking about cross cases since November... not only your case...
(the reboot cases- electrostatic choc were ultimately the most worrying in my opinion...)
(but hey...it seems that all this is very relative and that there was nothing to change... pessimistic, I don't think so... but don't think that burying your head in the sand really helps, in many cases, wiim.. as a reminder I have been following the Wiim adventure since 02/22..I also have a little perspective... and have a mini and a plus))
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