PEQ talk

[Wiimer]

Hi to all
I haven't intervened in a long time, but this is the right time. I have several things to ask about the long-awaited PEQ.
Let me start by saying that I am completely incompetent when it comes to EQs, because I am not in favor of anything that alters the recording in a more or less arbitrary way. I had a physical EQ in my youth, but I quickly sold it because it brought me more dissatisfaction than satisfaction.
Coming to the point. I wanted to try to play around a bit with the famous PEQ, but I found, in my opinion, some defects:
The IOS version seems fine, but the reset doesn't seem to work. Another thing is that when switching between EQ on and EQ off, I don't hear any audible differences on the equalized frequencies. Am I doing something wrong?
Android version. It seems like a mess to me. The upper portion of the screen with the 4 frequencies and curves does not appear. Filters 1 and 4 are not selectable while they are in the IOS version. Does it happen to you too?
Now I have some truly incompetent questions.
1) Could you suggest an easy beginner's guide on how to use a 4-frequency parametric? Filters, Gain, Q Factor etc. I'd like to try, but I don't understand anything.
2) Filters. I see PK; HS;LS. What is the difference between these filters? Which is better to use if one is better than the other?
3) If, for example, I wanted to use parametric to increase the presence of the drum cymbals, which frequencies should I increase? Could anyone suggest some good values for the various settings? I mean Filters, Frequencies, Gain, Q factor for the four frequencies.
I know I've put a lot of meat on the fire, but I would be grateful if someone could help me.
A nice weekend to all

Hi.

Did you read this first?
https://faq.wiimhome.com/support/so...ow-to-use-parametric-eq-a-comprehensive-guide

What Android version is your phone?
At least Android 9 and earlier versions don't seem to show the graph.

 

[Giulio]

Reading this thread has made me want to give the WiiM Pro equalizer another chance, and maybe I'll turn it back on after swapping out the current Fosi amplifier with its little brother without tone controls.
In particular, I read that it seems the equalizer has been completed with an algorithm for compensating the maximum manageable level.
Using the equalizer would also bring my Aiyima A07 back into play, which is equally good but has timbral characteristics that are not well suited to these speakers.
However, one choice made by WiiM is not entirely clear to me: why limit the choice of filter types to just two controls? This prevents setting a differentiated response.
For example, I might want +2dB starting from 7000Hz, +4dB beyond 10000Hz, and on the other side, +2dB below 200Hz increased to +4dB below 100Hz.
Of course, these values are just an illustrative example.

 

[onlyoneme]

Yes, but it seems a mess to find something simple, just for newbies

What is EQ and how do I use it? A Beginner's Guide - Audient

In this EQ guide, learn the basics: what is EQ? Get a quick rundown of the different equalisation types and the frequency spectrum.

audient.com

The Complete Guide To Parametric Equalization/EQ

Explore parametric equalization (EQ) in-depth, its versatile sound control, and how to use it effectively for audio enhancement.

mynewmicrophone.com

Parametric EQ: What it is, How to Use it and Why. - MasteringBOX

Of the several types of EQ, parametric EQ offers the most precision control. Let's dive into the nuances of this type of EQ, and what makes it a cut above.

www.masteringbox.com

Parametric EQ Explained - Audiosolace

For instance, you can increase or lower the bass or treble of your car's music system using an EQ. Generally, a Parametric EQ makes diverse changes in the

audiosolace.com

Fundamentals Of EQ - Best Beginner Guide For Using EQ

EQ comes into play when faders are not fulfilling your mix needs. EQ is an acronym for the term Equalisation - to make equal. In this lesson, you will learn the fundamentals of equalisation and how to use an equaliser in your productions and audio mixes. What is EQ or Equalisation in Music...

learnmusicproduction.in

The Art of Equalization

 

[Maurizio]

Hi.

Did you read this first?
https://faq.wiimhome.com/support/so...ow-to-use-parametric-eq-a-comprehensive-guide

What Android version is your phone?
At least Android 9 and earlier versions don't seem to show the graph.

Hi Wiimer
I think you are right. On my phone Samsung S20+ i can see the graph. I can't see it on a Wawei tablet that has Android 9. I know, it's an old tablet, but used as a remote control to stream music is enough
Thanks for your reply

 

[Maurizio]

What is EQ and how do I use it? A Beginner's Guide - Audient

In this EQ guide, learn the basics: what is EQ? Get a quick rundown of the different equalisation types and the frequency spectrum.

audient.com

The Complete Guide To Parametric Equalization/EQ

Explore parametric equalization (EQ) in-depth, its versatile sound control, and how to use it effectively for audio enhancement.

mynewmicrophone.com

Parametric EQ: What it is, How to Use it and Why. - MasteringBOX

Of the several types of EQ, parametric EQ offers the most precision control. Let's dive into the nuances of this type of EQ, and what makes it a cut above.

www.masteringbox.com

Parametric EQ Explained - Audiosolace

For instance, you can increase or lower the bass or treble of your car's music system using an EQ. Generally, a Parametric EQ makes diverse changes in the

audiosolace.com

Fundamentals Of EQ - Best Beginner Guide For Using EQ

EQ comes into play when faders are not fulfilling your mix needs. EQ is an acronym for the term Equalisation - to make equal. In this lesson, you will learn the fundamentals of equalisation and how to use an equaliser in your productions and audio mixes. What is EQ or Equalisation in Music...

learnmusicproduction.in

The Art of Equalization

Thanks very much. I will follow your links. Let's see if I can come up with something.

 

[CrystalGipsy]

The latest app allows the 1st (LS) and last (HS) to be selected as any of LS, PK, HS

Doesn’t on iOS, but neither does PEQ either on my Pro Plus has no effect at all annoyingly.

 

[onlyoneme]

iOS app not yet upgraded, but difference between PK and LS is obvious:

 

[Smartplug]

iOS 17 will be release tomorrow.

 

[Bismarck]

The latest app allows the 1st (LS) and last (HS) to be selected as any of LS, PK, HS

I don’t see this possibility in my IOS app.
Is this already released?

 

[Brantome]

I don’t see this possibility in my IOS app.
Is this already released?

Not yet in the iOS app, but I think they’re hoping to get an iOS app update out this week

 

[dssme]

Not yet in the iOS app, but I think they’re hoping to get an iOS app update out this week

The Windows app is virtually unusable as it stands

Would like to see more progress on it

 

[Brantome]

The Windows app is virtually unusable as it stands

Would like to see more progress on it

It seems to come from a different starting point too - less of a config/control point and more of a media player to a degree?

 

[dssme]

It seems to come from a different starting point too - less of a config/control point and more of a media player to a degree?

yep...does offer play stop and select a preset (likely a bunch of folders but I didn't try that) but I don't see any other features

So, I hope for more progress for sure, just that they're probably not so concerned on that

 

[Bismarck]

Not yet in the iOS app, but I think they’re hoping to get an iOS app update out this week

Still no updates…

 

[Brantome]

Still no updates…

V2.6.4 just released for iOS

 

[Matias]

I asked for decimals on the frequencies, happy to see they adopted it. PEQ is now fine tuned!

Edit: now if we could have more PK bands, the more the better!

 

[Bigriffi]

I found this while googling:
https://faq.wiimhome.com/support/so...ow-to-use-parametric-eq-a-comprehensive-guide

Sorry, didn't see other post!

 

[CrystalGipsy]

iOS app updates but peq still doesn’t do anything on the Pro Plus yet.

 

[Brantome]

iOS app updates but peq still doesn’t do anything on the Pro Plus yet.

What do you mean by doesn’t do anything on the Pro Plus? I can dynamically adjust the PEQ graph on my iPad WiM Home app and clearly hear the difference. I’m using analogue out, using the Pro Plus DAC.

 

[CrystalGipsy]

Also when this does work does it apply any headroom to stop clipping in the digital domain? I don’t see an option for this Or do you alter the output volume?