Room Correction and REL sub

I was actually considering this setup anyway - have the Onkyo at fixed volume & use the Wiim remote to adjust volume. Am going to be connecting my cd player via RCA and my TV via optical to the Wiim anyway, so that could work

That would be ok if the DAC in the Wiim is better than the CD Player.

Would be better if you had the Ultra as that would allow you to use high pass/subwoofer pre out. Although still not ideal it's sort of a bodge. A new integrated amp with high pass/subwoofer pre out would be better in some ways. Ideally one with subwoofer delay since you are lacking that. In other words a avr or av pre amp.

Wiim Amp pro could be one option.

Another could be a seperate high pass box, like outlaw icbm-1

I'm using high pass

Source---> pre amp---->outlaw icbm-1---->power amp---->speakers
outaw icbm1----> antimode---->subwoofer
 
I imagine the DAC will be just fine (have got an old Marantz CD5005). Anyway, doubt my ears would be able to tell the difference between DACs. Am not looking to get the Ultra/Amp or any other upgrade, I've spent enough time/money, just want to enjoy the music! I'll dial in the sub again, set that range in RC settings and take it from there I think. And if the results are still terrible, I'll revert to plain old EQ.
 
The only way of getting the sub to match in timing with the speakers is to physically move the subwoofer around, but the location of the sub in phase may not be the best location of the subwoofer. And vice versa.

Ideally you want the subwoofer in the best location, then adjust phase to blend it in, then perform a combined ~40hz-300hz correction, only cutting the peaks, not boosting. Working out where to start correction is more tricky as you need measurement equipment.,

Would be good idea to use REW/UMIK to determine subwoofer response, speaker response, how moving the sub interacts with the overall response, then working out where to perfom correction.

One you don't want to do is boost 20hz-30hz, as neither your sub or speakers can reproduce those frequencies, so you'll be driving them way past the limits.

The Wiim measurement EQ process will show you some info, but you'll have to do a few runs, take screenshots. It's like like REW you can do a dozen or so responses, and compare measurements.

If the Wiim had RTA, you could have the subwoofer on a dolly, move it around the room and wherever the summed response is flattest that is the best location, at least with the limitation of the rel not having phase.

I believe Anthem ARC in their products do have a RTA function, quick measure where it sends a sustained noise
 
Ideally you want the subwoofer in the best location, blend it in, then perform a combined ~40hz-300hz correction, only cutting the peaks, not boosting.
This is what I plan to do, no more no less. I read about only cutting peaks, will keep that in mind. Anything else is either way too complicated and/or I just don't understand it!...or involves equipment I don't have and won't spend money on. Can't do REW, I don't have anything to download it to. And I already have a usb mic, so will try RC based on results using that. Am not after perfect results, my ears are too old for that! Thanks for your time though!
 
A tip for doing measurements when you do not have a laptop/pc for REW is to use the Housecurve app and connect your USB mic via a usb hub to either your phone or ipad etc.
 
A tip for doing measurements when you do not have a laptop/pc for REW is to use the Housecurve app and connect your USB mic via a usb hub to either your phone or ipad etc.
I don't own any iOS devices so Housecurve is no go sadly. I have just got Audio Tool for Android, but the guide is impenetrable and can't find zero stuff online about it
 
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