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Wow, flutter, scratches, snap, crackle, pop ... 
And worst of all, you have to get up half way through!
And worst of all, you have to get up half way through!
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Sounds like you have a broken optical cable. Try the basic one that came with your WiiMWow, flutter, scratches, snap, crackle, pop ...
Looks like serious jitter issuesSounds like you have a broken optical cable. Try the basic one that came with your WiiM
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Entirely subjective. I could say vinyl sounds fuller, more mellifluous but can lack the detail of a streamer.I'm just curious to hear your opinions about this.
What difference do you think there is between playing the same album from vinyl versus playing it with a streamer?
What about a high quality digital rip of an LP, even as high as 24/192 (unnecessary I know) like I can do with my Linn MDSM/4 - would you expect that to sound the same or different from the LP? TBH, at my age, I can't tell them apart...
Agree.
I have recently added an ADC that is capable of 24/192 needledrop to my HiFi but I have been using it at only 24/96.
To my ears the resulting needledrop FLACs when no "correction" has been applied sound identical to the when I play the physical LP through the same HiFi kit. Obviously I tend to apply click correction but it doesn't alter the overall warmer sound of Vinyl rips compared to native digital files.
Good, but scratches and wow & flutter apart. Sound signature? Best, worse, the same?
It seems to me that, for example, the music reproduced by today.streamers is very close to the sound of vinyl.
Much more than CDs did.
Of course with turntables and vinil you have a manual and loving relationship that you don't have with a digital device.
It seems to me that, for example, the music reproduced by today.streamers is very close to the sound of vinyl.
Much more than CDs did.
Of course with turntables and vinil you have a manual and loving relationship that you don't have with a digital device.
Vinyl is warmer.Good, but scratches and wow & flutter apart. Sound signature? Best, worse, the same?
It seems to me that, for example, the music reproduced by today.streamers is very close to the sound of vinyl.
Much more than CDs did.
Of course with turntables and vinil you have a manual and loving relationship that you don't have with a digital device.
Digital sources are more analytical but if you can really hear differences between HiRes streams and CD from the same master then I must congratulate you on having exceptional ears!
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No, I certainly don't have Paganini's ear.
I was referring to the fact that old CDs, which I've never loved, had an extremely aseptic and clinical sound. It completely lacked heat. This aspect seems to me improved with what "comes out" from the streamers. Less cold sound.
Personal opinion.
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Guess you can’t have a discussion like this without mentioning the different mastering techniques between vinyl and CD, and the “Loudness Wars” discussed in this and numerous other links and YouTube videos… https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/vinyl-vs-cd-in-the-loudness-war/
Thx @Brantome . I have read whit interest the article you have linked
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I found this video interesting too which argues that no mastering may be the best mastering
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Guess when it comes to streaming, as has been said before, it all depends which source master they're using...
this is just my questionable opinion...
Any era has it's own support, this is why if i'm listening vinyl they have to be from years when they were the "elected" medium.
Any streaming edition of old songs, is quite certain that has been "remastered" and such remasters sometimes do damages...
In the same time, i don't ear any reason to buy new vinyl releases or even worst, remastered reprints.
Any era has it's own support, this is why if i'm listening vinyl they have to be from years when they were the "elected" medium.
Any streaming edition of old songs, is quite certain that has been "remastered" and such remasters sometimes do damages...
In the same time, i don't ear any reason to buy new vinyl releases or even worst, remastered reprints.
I can agree, even if from time to time I still buy some vinil. Not new vinils or remastered version. I buy some original vinyl of 60s 70s for my collection if they are almost in near mint condition. Problem is that they cost a bunch of money.
yes, sometimes i did the same, but mainly for the 80's...
@Achim1811Like my son...I think we all have that memories linked to our youth. For the most important records I remember the purchase year and the shop I bought them. For the first time...some needed a rebuy.
Good times those. Not so much for the youth, but also, but for the prices.
I remember my purchases too. Records bought for 3000/5000 lire. More or less 1.5 / 2 € even if it's not really like that.
Now for an original record of the time in good condition, if you're lucky, it costs no less than 100€.
Often more. They have become collector's items.
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the good old days, when I was jumping ditches lengthwise...
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