What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

[adias]

How about an all out assault on just a digital streamer. I find the USB out on my ultra does not sound as good as the ultra alone with a dac that I would like to use. So great USB out tosslink and coax. And give it a lot of computing power so you can change tracks quickly surf the app quickly. So more speed and again and all out assault on better digital outputs in a nice box.

That's a basic streamer transport. Yeah, WiiM should make one - being proposed several times.

 

[Swan55]

Yes that is of course possible. They would probably be much more expensive than conventional setups of discrete boxes. So I don't see any companies doing that.

You can however build your own, as a modern steamer is mostly a computer. Check out e.g. the raspberry pi audio projects.

Raspberry PI Music Server – The Complete Guide (2025 Edition) - Music Server Tips

Introduction Over the years, I’ve tried all kinds of computer setups for music playback—fanless Intel NUCs, Mac Minis, custom PCs…...

www.musicservertips.com

Hgo58:
I agree that it would be more expensive, and I also suspect that the actual improvements over time would turn out to be negligible (there is often some incompatibility issue - often unseen), and how many customers would actually get their spanners out ? So at the end of the day, probably a non starter (and after all, the manufacturer wants to sell new units).

Thanks for the diy link = a nice read.

 

[Swan55]

And the USB Board cost 3 times as much as an WiiM Ultra

Hgo and Edd,

Thanks for your replies; I found a brief overview of the Innuos in this Stereophile article from April this year. The prices mentioned are not for our little swan-pond (now, where's that lottery ticket ?).

Stream Syndicate: Innuos, dCS, D’Agostino, and Wilson Audio Make Waves | Stereophile.com

In two adjacent rooms on the 14th floor of the Renaissance Schaumburg Hotel, Innuos launched its latest Stream1 and Stream3 devices. Conceived as “the gateway to high-performance music,” the Stream series works with the Innuos Sense app. The app’s latest additions include a portal to the IDAGIO...

www.stereophile.com

 

[Kblade97]

USB audio out is USB audio out. There are no such thing as a better USB. You can have better clock pression on TosLink but that is really not need.

The speed of track control mostly depends on your network and attached disk speed, so not much to do there either.

Disagree

 

[hgo58]

Disagree

Explain.

 

[Deleted member 24058]

'honest disagreement is often a good sign of progress'. mahatma gandhi

 

[r5yk5]

New Mini with better processor/more memory, USB-C and Lyrion (LMS/Squeezelite) support.

Whenever my mini doesn't do something that the pro plus or ultra will do, I never think "ooh I wish I had a great big plastic box on my bed side table".
I always think "I wish they made a better little disc"

 

[adias]

Explain.

This has been explained ad nauseum. USB out is an asynchronous channel. It allows the receiving DAC to fully reconstruct the stream with precision clocks - if the DAC has those.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

This has been explained ad nauseum. USB out is an asynchronous channel. It allows the receiving DAC to fully reconstruct the stream with precision clocks - if the DAC has those.

And if that made a real-world difference to the sound it would show up with provable audible differences in distortion measurements. Which tends not to happen with decent DACs.

 

[obertransae]

Please provide bookshelf speakers with matching stands..

 

[Deleted member 24058]

and for the real die hard fans. show the world what you love would call it the nora way.

 

[canard]

Is there standard galvanic isolation on the USB? Not sure...
This can probably sometimes explain differences in situations, etc
;-)
Toslink sure
Spdif aes often. and easy to do ...
Usb?
;-)
You always have to look at situations in detail to avoid regrettable shortcuts* ;-)

*(see also what is present in the measurement methodologies that we come across on this point, the isolations being generally present there)

 

[adias]

Is there standard galvanic isolation on the USB? Not sure...
This can probably sometimes explain differences in situations, etc
;-)
Toslink sure
Spdif aes often. and easy to do ...
Usb?
;-)
You always have to look at situations in detail to avoid regrettable shortcuts* ;-)

*(see also what is present in the measurement methodologies that we come across on this point, the isolations being generally present there)

Several DAC manufacturers have galvanic isolation. For example Schiit Audio’s Unison USB input.

 

[canard]

Several DAC manufacturers have galvanic isolation. For example Schiit Audio’s Unison USB input.

maybe also on the source side...
maybe it's positive to encourage Wiim not to forget to make it side spdif and usb on its future streamers
;-)

 

[claudia.bailey]

The following would be ideal :
(Though already posted in the Facebook - WiiM Fan Page ( with few changes )

1. WiiM ULTRA ( successor of PRO ) - OPTION 1

* Streamer of al Music Streaming Services
* DAC from ESS/AKM, with proper implementation
* Digital/Analog - input/output,
* HDMI-eARC/ARC, Balanced output
* USB Input
* Bluetooth 5.1/ MQair
* 12V Trigger
* Display Screen


2. WiiM ULTRA ( successor of PRO ) - OPTION 2

* Streamer of al Music Streaming Services
* Digital output
* 12V Trigger



3. WiiM Amp - OPTION 1 ( Pair with WiiM ULTRA -Option 1 )

* Class AB / D ( Purifi / Hypex )
* 75W/Ch @ 8Ohms
* Balanced & Unbalanced Inputs
* Tone Controls
* 12V Trigger


4. WiiM Amp - OPTION 2 ( Pair with WiiM ULTRA -Option 2 )

* Class AB / D ( Purifi / Hypex )
* 75W/Ch @ 8Ohms
* DAC from ESS/AKM, with proper implementation
* Digital/Analog - input/output,
* HDMI-eARC/ARC
* USB Input
* Bluetooth 5.1/ MQair
* DIRAC
* Tone Controls / Digital Filters
* 12V Trigger


Hope, the next product from WiiM is a audiophile one, that can compete with other industry products, competitively priced with the existing good Costumer Support

You know, with all your requirements, it's not going to be competitively priced if this company hopes to pay its employees

 

[hgo58]

You know, with all your requirements, it's not going to be competitively priced if this company hopes to pay its employees

And as the comments are very old most of it is already included in latest devices.

 

[Ametys]

New remote control with all numeric buttons with easy selection of all presets. Expand the number of presets to 30 similar to my Marantz MCR 612.

 

[hgo58]

As a person who used all my presents on day one of owning the Amp Ultra, that would be welcome. Also, the ability to rewind using the remote (unless that happened and I am using it wrong), a shuffle mode that would play any of the millions of songs from your music subscription. Had this on a previous equipment, and it was excellent as it shuffled my ripped CD tracks also. This was a great way to discover new music and play songs that you hadn't heard for years.

How is this related to the comment you reply to?

 

[Burnside]

How is this related to the comment you reply to?

Clearly mistakenly quoting you and replying to the previous comment. No big deal imho…

 

[canard]

Several DAC manufacturers have galvanic isolation. For example Schiit Audio’s Unison USB input.

I was just pointing out the disparate aspect of situations in real life...with-without galvanic isolation...

(and in this, the limitations of many measurement approaches that don't correspond to it...because in general, the benches is isolate, or where we take these precautions , and avoid problems of this type that we can encounter...)


"the measures, necessarily limited, do not tell the whole story"
;-)