What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

Headphone amp, and then a pure power amp e.g. to match the Ultra but plain front with no volume control, no DAC etc.
 
Vibelink has volume control and a DAC, so it's not a power amp, it's an integrated amp. I'd like to see a true power amp.
Your definition of what is a "true power amp" and what is an "integrated amp" is totally arbitrary and highly debatable. WiiM even explicitly use the term "pure power amp".

Your wish is still valid, of course, and most clearly put.
 
Your definition of what is a "true power amp" and what is an "integrated amp" is totally arbitrary and highly debatable. WiiM even explicitly use the term "pure power amp".

Your wish is still valid, of course, and most clearly put.
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A pig's a pig.

-Ed
 
Pre-amplifier will add voltage to a signal but will not provide current, the power amplifer while can add some voltage gain has it main function on providing the current needed for driving the speakers.

The Vibelink volume control its probably providing attenuation, not part of an active preamp stage
 
Your definition of what is a "true power amp" and what is an "integrated amp" is totally arbitrary and highly debatable. WiiM even explicitly use the term "pure power amp".

Your wish is still valid, of course, and most clearly put.
I think it might be somewhat of an exaggeration to say that calling the Vibelink - an amp with multiple inputs, an integrated DAC, and a volume control - an "integrated amplifier", rather than a power amplifier, is somehow "totally arbitrary and highly debatable".

I've nothing against WiiM trying out new marketing gimmicks, like calling the Vibelink a "Pure Power Amp" based seemingly on their own arbitrary definition that a WiiM amp without streaming functionality must be a power amp. Despite their attempt to "reinvent the genre", it will of course still be found listed as an integrated amp on practically all retailer sites, and will still be called an integrated amp by the vast majority of reviewers and product testers, because that is what the Vibelink is - a really good compact integrated amplifier.... Not that there's anything wrong with that (for any Seinfeld fans out there :)).
 
I think it might be somewhat of an exaggeration to say that calling the Vibelink - an amp with multiple inputs, an integrated DAC, and a volume control - an "integrated amplifier", rather than a power amplifier, is somehow "totally arbitrary and highly debatable".

I've nothing against WiiM trying out new marketing gimmicks, like calling the Vibelink a "Pure Power Amp" based seemingly on their own arbitrary definition that a WiiM amp without streaming functionality must be a power amp. Despite their attempt to "reinvent the genre", it will of course still be found listed as an integrated amp on practically all retailer sites, and will still be called an integrated amp by the vast majority of reviewers and product testers, because that is what the Vibelink is - a really good compact integrated amplifier.... Not that there's anything wrong with that (for any Seinfeld fans out there :)).
It's an integrated amp that identifies as a power amp, pal.

(yes, yes, don't call me pal, buddy. don't call me buddy, mate. don't call me mate, bro...etc.)

-Ed
 
I think it might be somewhat of an exaggeration to say that calling the Vibelink - an amp with multiple inputs, an integrated DAC, and a volume control - an "integrated amplifier", rather than a power amplifier, is somehow "totally arbitrary and highly debatable".
I'd say that calling it an integrated amplifier is an exaggeration. ;)

For those old enough to remember, an integrated amplifier has always been a pre-amplifier and a power amplifier build into the same cabinet. The concept of what a pre-amplifier actually is (or was) has been mostly forgotten by now (and the advent of the oxymoronic class of "passive pre-amplifiers" certainly did play a role).

How would you call a WiiM Vibelink amp with no volume control but a built-in DAC? :D That's something that I had hoped for.
 
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