What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?

[rccarguy]

That's $225 vs $89. Plus the costs for UMIK-1 or UMIK-2. Plus the costs for a Dirac Live license, if you don't want to use REW.

Not sure if this is what @James! has been asking for.

Don't need dirac license. but yeah need umik1 and experience with REW so not exactly easy to use.

But it does a lot, doubt Wiim can offer something like that...only thing I guess that is lacking I suppose is wireless outputs, ethernet in (to control from app or ideally internet browser) and also to stream to it.

Have one myself. Use it for a triple sub setup in one system and fourth output used in another system so pretty good value for money.

A better easier to use unit would be good for the mass market, just add app control, measurement, PEQ pre and post EQ results, multi sub time alignment, alignment with speakers, etc

 

[harkpabst]

Don't need dirac license. but yeah need umik1 and experience with REW so not exactly easy to use.

That's why I wrote "... if you don't want to use REW." From my point of view REW is a strong contender for the "best software ever award, but it also presents a steep learning curve not everybody wants to spend time on.

A better easier to use unit would be good for the mass market, just add app control, measurement, PEQ pre and post EQ results, multi sub time alignment, alignment with speakers, etc

I don't think miniDSP are more likely to come up with this than WiiM.

The Mini has been used for subwoofer integration with other WiiM devices in the past by fellow members, but it's not as easy as pressing a button or two and there is still functionality missing.

Also I'm not sure how much of a market there really is for such a device. The expected price point (much closer to the WiiM Mini than to the HD) could attract some, but those who are more serious about the topic will probably demand more control and spend money on a more flexible device anyway.

 

[James!]

That's $225 vs $89. Plus the costs for UMIK-1 or UMIK-2. Plus the costs for a Dirac Live license, if you don't want to use REW.

Not sure if this is what @James! has been asking for.

Nah you are right but I probably didnt explain it well enough, I'm happy with the sub output settings on the wiim amp. Got another amp (pro) for my kitchen but space limited so can't fit the wiim sub dont have any way to run sub cables, but small wireless sub would work fine. Could go with something like svs soundpath but costs more than a mini and that's another discrete wireless network adding interference to my smart home setup so another wiim device on same network would be preferable. Know the mini would 80% do the job but doesn't have the advanced EQ that the amp provides, plus would require separate volume control which is fine for me but not ideal for wife or kids using if I'm not around, they only ever call music from alexa.

Was thinking a cheap(ish) adaptor that will turn basically any normal sub into having functionality of the wiim pro sub would be perfect for me and think defo something other people would buy if that want to add their current sub into the ecosystem. Would think it could be potentially be achievable on the current mini hardware with some firmware tweak, I'd definitely buy one if they released as a standalone unit even or added the functionality to the mini

 

[EddNog]

That's why I wrote "... if you don't want to use REW." From my point of view REW is a strong contender for the "best software ever award, but it also presents a steep learning curve not everybody wants to spend time on.


I don't think miniDSP are more likely to come up with this than WiiM.

The Mini has been used for subwoofer integration with other WiiM devices in the past by fellow members, but it's not as easy as pressing a button or two and there is still functionality missing.

Also I'm not sure how much of a market there really is for such a device. The expected price point (much closer to the WiiM Mini than to the HD) could attract some, but those who are more serious about the topic will probably demand more control and spend money on a more flexible device anyway.

miniDSP did have a software release that allowed for an auto-calibrate style function for REW (similar to HouseCurve app on iOS), so you don’t necessarily need to go the full learning curve to take advantage of REW calibration/correction with a miniDSP. Last I heard I think it’s like a $25-30 upgrade, so it’s a lot cheaper than full DIRAC license.

-Ed

 

[Horsey]

A mark II version of the Pro or Pro+ with USB in.

A nice little server.

With USB out too!

 

[CliffyBC]

I'd like to see Wiim have a go at making proper passive loudspeakers not these gimmicky sound speakers they sell. Both floor standing and bookshelf would be good.

 

[Aquaman]

I'd like to see Wiim have a go at making proper passive loudspeakers not these gimmicky sound speakers they sell. Both floor standing and bookshelf would be good.

What do passive speakers have to do with WiiM/Linkplay?
This business is mainly about software. The attached hardware is just to show what this can do.
There are a about a trillion manufacturers of passive speakers out there, 10% of which make decent loudspeakers. The market is fully saturated. So there are only two ways to enter this market as a newby. Either with cheap-as-shit fancy stuff or as a supplier of super high-end luxury. And with the latter you REALLY have to deliver, or you‘re dead.
None of this is WiiM. You may call them cheap, this they are. With the electronics they offer this works. With passive speaker this will not work. They are the last analogue domain in HiFi which cannot be conquored by software.

 

[slartibartfast]

What do passive speakers have to do with WiiM/Linkplay?
This business is mainly about software. The attached hardware is just to show what this can do.
There are a about a trillion manufacturers of passive speakers out there, 10% of which make decent loudspeakers. The market is fully saturated. So there are only two ways to enter this market as a newby. Either with cheap-as-shit fancy stuff or as a supplier of super high-end luxury. And with the latter you REALLY have to deliver, or you‘re dead.
None of this is WiiM. You may call them cheap, this they are. With the electronics they offer this works. With passive speaker this will not work. They are the last analogue domain in HiFi which cannot be conquored by software.

You could say the same about subwoofers.

 

[Aquaman]

You could say the same about subwoofers.

Probably. But they are not on my menu.

 

[CliffyBC]

What do passive speakers have to do with WiiM/Linkplay?
This business is mainly about software. The attached hardware is just to show what this can do.
There are a about a trillion manufacturers of passive speakers out there, 10% of which make decent loudspeakers. The market is fully saturated. So there are only two ways to enter this market as a newby. Either with cheap-as-shit fancy stuff or as a supplier of super high-end luxury. And with the latter you REALLY have to deliver, or you‘re dead.
None of this is WiiM. You may call them cheap, this they are. With the electronics they offer this works. With passive speaker this will not work. They are the last analogue domain in HiFi which cannot be conquored by software.

The question asked was "What products would you like to see based on what you've experienced so far?"
I answered the question, sorry if you didn't like my suggestion. I'm gutted...