WiiM Pro Plus - now ROON ready and certified

[Brantome]

Where are you located, Country?

There’s no discernable pattern as to who gets it when…

 

[boiing]

..which is a shame . It should be available when it's ready, for everyone, on demand. I'm happy the Pro+ is finally Roon Ready and the update will arrive soon. But in a broader context I think it's not done to push updates without user consent, at an unknown moment.

Think Apple: it is not that difficult. Notify the user an update is available, and let the user choose to update as his/her discretion.

 

[Brantome]

An Apple and oranges comparison

Apple are massively bigger than WiiM and have the backend server architecture to support a model such as you suggest. And as you see, the WiiM Home app pop up does give the option to ”Upgrade” or decline via “Not now” when the upgrade is available for your device.

 

[boiing]

The WiiM community is way way smaller than Apple's.. So server capacity should not be an issue. And not everyone would update at the same time if you make it a user choice, so I don't see this as a problem.

You say you have the option to upgrade or decline: yes, that is what I remember from some time ago. However, the last WiiM Pro and WiiM Pro + updates on my devices (I have 4) where done without my consent. Overnight, at random. I just got the message after the update had been done automatically. I do not see any setting to turn that off. That's my point: pushed updates without user consent are bad practice.

 

[CrystalGipsy]

Got the update but it appears the Wiim lies to Roon. I have PEQ active and not 100% volume which is controlled in the digital realm. Yet no sign of it in Roons Signal path. Should appear after RAAT.

 

[onlyoneme]

For which audio device Roon shows the processing performed directly on this device?

 

[BadMan]

Got the update but it appears the Wiim lies to Roon. I have PEQ active and not 100% volume which is controlled in the digital realm. Yet no sign of it in Roons Signal path. Should appear after RAAT.

View attachment 4201View attachment 4202View attachment 4203

please ask in the Roon forum

 

[Brantome]

Raise a ticket to WiiM and see what they say

 

[CrystalGipsy]

please ask in the Roon forum

Already did

 

[CrystalGipsy]

For which audio device Roon shows the processing performed directly on this device?

Any Roon Ready device is supposed to declare its signal path to the DAC. So if your using inbuilt DSP options it shows up after RAAT stage. Hegel, Bluesound, Cambridge Audio, Eversolo to name a few. This is one of Roons SP that it shows your the processing chain.

 

[canard]

firmware "roon" this morning in my plus...

 

[onlyoneme]

Any Roon Ready device is supposed to declare its signal path to the DAC. So if your using inbuilt DSP options it shows up after RAAT stage. Hegel, Bluesound, Cambridge Audio, Eversolo to name a few. This is one of Roons SP that it shows your the processing chain.

Can you show me such an example? For processing outside the Roon subsystem but shown in the Roon audio path?

 

[CrystalGipsy]

Raise a ticket to WiiM and see what they

Done

 

[Brantome]

You would have expected Roon to have picket this up though in the certification process? Seems such an obvious thing for them to check...

 

[CrystalGipsy]

Can you show me such an example? For processing outside the Roon subsystem but shown in the Roon audio path?

Here is my FiiO M11 Plus Dap which is Roon Ready I enabled the all to DSD feature on the device which upsamples all input to DSD. You can see it as a process after RAAT which indicates it’s a device process and not via Roon. All Roon Ready devices I have had all declare any additional steps that are done on the device itself if they are in the signal path to the DAC.

 

[onlyoneme]

Any Roon Ready device is supposed to declare its signal path to the DAC. So if your using inbuilt DSP options it shows up after RAAT stage. Hegel, Bluesound, Cambridge Audio, Eversolo to name a few. This is one of Roons SP that it shows your the processing chain.

To be honest I can read opposite statements here

https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/signal-path

"Lossless signal paths are indicated by a bright purple light, and mean exactly what the name implies: that the stream is going from the file to the device without being modified."
"Enhanced signal paths are indicated by a bright blue light. This means that Roon is performing some signal processing steps on the audio because you asked for them."

 

[CrystalGipsy]

You would have expected Roon to have picket this up though in the certification process? Seems such an obvious thing for them to check...

Agreed, unless it’s up to oems to decide on what they declare which then makes a mockery of this if they don’t.

 

[CrystalGipsy]

To be honest I can read opposite statements here

https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/signal-path

"Lossless signal paths are indicated by a bright purple light, and mean exactly what the name implies: that the stream is going from the file to the device without being modified."
"Enhanced signal paths are indicated by a bright blue light. This means that Roon is performing some signal processing steps on the audio because you asked for them."

Wrong it also will show steps on devices as I have said and shown. All Bluesound show any bass treble adjustments, adjusting the digital volume or other DSP if it’s active. Cambridge Audio show that the CXNv2 upsamples always to 384/24. Eversolo again shows any DSP applied on the device.!

 

[onlyoneme]

Here is my FiiO M11 Plus Dap which is Roon Ready I enabled the all to DSD feature on the device which upsamples all input to DSD. You can see it as a process after RAAT which indicates it’s a device process and not via Roon. All Roon Ready devices I have had all declare any additional steps that are done on the device itself if they are in the signal path to the DAC.

View attachment 4204

The same for the volume level on the device or EQ being enabled?

 

[onlyoneme]

Wrong it also will show steps on devices as I have said and shown. All Bluesound show any bass treble adjustments, adjusting the digital volume or other DSP if it’s active. Cambridge Audio show that the CXNv2 upsamples always to 384/24. Eversolo again shows any DSP applied on the device.!

But you can see that it's not a mandatory thing based on the link I provided? It's not even a supposed behavior.