Apple Music A Most Elegant Way to Get Bit-Perfect High-Res Apple Music with WiiM DSP & Bass Management!

[EddNog]

Thanks.

Yes I've followed all those steps. I see the circles/triangle, and when I tap that it brings up "Airplay" and I see the adapter. But should it say "Airplay", because that would indicate to me that it's using AP which of course cannot transfer higher then CD quality?

The adapter itself does not have any wireless communication capabilities, so no, it does not work via AirPlay. If you're playing music on the phone through it and the optical signal delivers sound to your DAC, then it is definitely not AirPlay.

-Ed

 

[saberger1]

The adapter itself does not have any wireless communication capabilities, so no, it does not work via AirPlay. If you're playing music on the phone through it and the optical signal delivers sound to your DAC, then it is definitely not AirPlay.

-Ed

Well for whatever reason I can’t get it to transfer more than 16/44

 

[saberger1]

Got it! I had to turn off Dolby Atmos.

Thanks for your patience and help.

 

[adias]

Not unless the usb-c cable has the Apple chip in it

With some pretty high end DACs I use Amazon Basics USB cables with MacOS/iOS products. USB2 does not need any chips and some in aftermarket cables may be detrimental.

 

[Machiavelli]

sorry, obviously wrong thread. but i found no better one and do not want to open a new.
will i be able to get 24/48 from apple music with an apple tv box which is still unused waiting and my ultra? the ultra's hdmi is free and so are two on our samsung tv, one of it is arc. there is no wiim app for this tizen os on the horizon. the tv features of the apple box are irrelevant for me, this is done by a sky stream. also a now playing screen is not wanted. my idea was using the apple music app to bring what they call lossless alac in my stereo system. and how has it to be connected for this use case? thank you.

 

[EddNog]

sorry, obviously wrong thread. but i found no better one and do not want to open a new.
will i be able to get 24/48 from apple music with an apple tv box which is still unused waiting and my ultra? the ultra's hdmi is free and so are two on our samsung tv, one of it is arc. there is no wiim app for this tizen os on the horizon. the tv features of the apple box are irrelevant for me, this is done by a sky stream. also a now playing screen is not wanted. my idea was using the apple music app to bring what they call lossless alac in my stereo system. and how has it to be connected for this use case? thank you.

You will get 48KHz/24-bit output from Apple Music to the WiiM Ultra via ARC input if you connect HDMI to the TV from Apple TV 4K and then HDMI ARC from the TV to WiiM Ultra. Note that anything other than 48KHz recordings will get resampled to 48KHz/24-bit. Natively 48KHz recordings will go bitperfect as long as you’re not forcing Dolby output in the Apple TV’s audio settings.

-Ed

 

[Machiavelli]

You will get 48KHz/24-bit output from Apple Music to the WiiM Ultra via ARC input if you connect HDMI to the TV from Apple TV 4K and then HDMI ARC from the TV to WiiM Ultra. Note that anything other than 48KHz recordings will get resampled to 48KHz/24-bit. Natively 48KHz recordings will go bitperfect as long as you’re not forcing Dolby output in the Apple TV’s audio settings.

-Ed

thank you, that is fine for me.

 

[cristoo]

You will get 48KHz/24-bit output from Apple Music to the WiiM Ultra via ARC input if you connect HDMI to the TV from Apple TV 4K and then HDMI ARC from the TV to WiiM Ultra. Note that anything other than 48KHz recordings will get resampled to 48KHz/24-bit. Natively 48KHz recordings will go bitperfect as long as you’re not forcing Dolby output in the Apple TV’s audio settings.

-Ed

Hi

Quick question - I have setup connected as described - Apple TV 4K (not recent one), Panasonic TV plasma and Wiim Ultra but I have via HDMI 16bit/48 KHz as shown on
Wiim screen, not 24bit, and it is unchangeable not matter of source material of ATV. Do I do sth wrong so I have only 16bit ?


Best regards

Krzysztof

 

[EddNog]

Hi

Quick question - I have setup connected as described - Apple TV 4K (not recent one), Panasonic TV plasma and Wiim Ultra but I have via HDMI 16bit/48 KHz as shown on
Wiim screen, not 24bit, and it is unchangeable not matter of source material of ATV. Do I do sth wrong so I have only 16bit ?


Best regards

Krzysztof

Sorry, I was under the impression it was 24-bit. I guess it is only 16-bit. That's my mistake there.

-Ed

 

[Machiavelli]

as long as it is 16/44 or cd quality it will be good enough for my use case. it is for background doodling only. airplay2 would be fine enough for this room and the apple tv is already here so no need to buy for example one of the airplay wiims.

 

[Pcryan5]

Most elegant? Some like a Rube Goldberg contraption. Which of course means I love it.

 

[Machiavelli]

like professor butts and the self-operating napkin?

 

[Machiavelli]

You will get 48KHz/24-bit output from Apple Music to the WiiM Ultra via ARC input if you connect HDMI to the TV from Apple TV 4K and then HDMI ARC from the TV to WiiM Ultra. Note that anything other than 48KHz recordings will get resampled to 48KHz/24-bit. Natively 48KHz recordings will go bitperfect as long as you’re not forcing Dolby output in the Apple TV’s audio settings.

-Ed

moved the ultra from living room to the office, connected the way you wrote and everythings works as expected. thanks once more.

 

[Machiavelli]

short and final update it seems the rat pack ultra & hdmi & apple tv is not as reliable as i hoped it is. no desire to do any troubleshooting. the apple box is finally history because i found a friend who will use it for what it is made. the ultra stays in the office and goes optical to the kef lsx2 for qobuz only. apple music for use with headphones, dap or smartphone only.

 

[cristoo]

short and final update it seems the rat pack ultra & hdmi & apple tv is not as reliable as i hoped it is. no desire to do any troubleshooting. the apple box is finally history because i found a friend who will use it for what it is made. the ultra stays in the office and goes optical to the kef lsx2 for qobuz only. apple music for use with headphones, dap or smartphone only.

What was the problem ? For Apple Music I use Apple TV but as connected via HDMI it requires TV to be on (auto turn via CEC, I don’t use TV remote so I don’t have other option) and sometimes I just want to listen to music without TV. Therefore I bought Belkin Soundform but connection through Optical is not reliable. I have troubles with auto sensing which described in other threads and using it is not so convenient.

So as I have apart of Ultra also Amp, than i listen AMusic on Amp (native Airplay) or Phone.

I like my ultra setup but in that case I have to go with Tidal or Qobuz.

Krzysztof

 

[Machiavelli]

@cristoo
dropouts and miracles with self changing outputs. but for me it is done. it seems to be not pnp as i hope it is. no problem. fine with the situation as it is.