Brutal RMA Experience in Canada

I had a long and happy "Chat with GPT"™ and the result seems pretty clear. Even though Canadian laws differ from EU regulation, naturally, the situation regarding the statutory warranty is essentially the same:

It's the seller's responsibility to warrant the goods are fit for purpose, of acceptable quality and reasonably durable.

Shops may offer something like a “30-days-money-back-no-qurstions-asked" policy, but this is totally unrelated. To cute my good friend:


And that's the real cause of this unpleasant situation.

A manufacturer's warranty might come on top of any purchase, but it's the manufacturer's right to define the conditions under which this additional warranty applies. And one of these conditions can be: Get back to the seller, first.

Now, everyone smarter than AI is invited to provide evidence for how wrong all this is. ;)

Pretty much my conclusion after a quick non-AI google search a few days back.

Sounds like Bestbuy really messed this up or just have pretty poor customer service - the Microland agency appear to the the outfit responsible for repairs for one of Canada’s main WiiM distributors Gentec who I guess supplied Bestbuy in the first instance. While repairing a faulty unit may be one of the remedial options, I would have thought the responsibility for the RMA lay with Bestbuy/Gentec rather than relying on the end customer having to deal directly with their repair agency with whom they have no contractual relationship.

I don’t think that it’s Wiim who “really need to reevaluate this process in Canada”, it’s Bestbuy or their distributor Gentec.
 
I had a long and happy "Chat with GPT"™ and the result seems pretty clear. Even though Canadian laws differ from EU regulation, naturally, the situation regarding the statutory warranty is essentially the same:

It's the seller's responsibility to warrant the goods are fit for purpose, of acceptable quality and reasonably durable.

Shops may offer something like a “30-days-money-back-no-qurstions-asked" policy, but this is totally unrelated. To cute my good friend:


And that's the real cause of this unpleasant situation.

A manufacturer's warranty might come on top of any purchase, but it's the manufacturer's right to define the conditions under which this additional warranty applies. And one of these conditions can be: Get back to the seller, first.

Now, everyone smarter than AI is invited to provide evidence for how wrong all this is. ;)
I wonder where GPT found the info. I can't find any clear information about warranties in Canada.
 
Did Ai mention 'customer goodwill' .. :unsure: ... knowing your rights where ever you purchase is clearly important, but I have always found my initial contact when reporting a problem is crucial, including an 'audit trail' of exactly whats has gone wrong and a very polite request for help suggesting a 'credit note' over a full refund as the company then still has your £££$$$ which after all is what they really want.
I also think where possible the 'manufacturer' should be made aware of your issues, in this case 'WiiM' as their reputation is affected by 'negative' social media discussions and maybe some 'customer goodwill' might help fix things ..
 
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"Retail staff (and sadly, sometimes managers) often confuse..."
Been there a few times, usually with younger staff who don't understand Australian Comsumer Law, and it can be quite a battle to finally get to someone who knows their responsibilities.

I wish the OP the best.
 
Did Ai mention 'customer goodwill' .. :unsure: ... knowing your rights where ever you purchase is clearly important, but I have always found my initial contact when reporting a problem is crucial, including an 'audit trail' of exactly whats has gone wrong and a very polite request for help suggesting a 'credit note' over a full refund as the company then still has your £££$$$ which after all is what they really want.
I also think where possible the 'manufacturer' should be made aware of your issues, in this case 'WiiM' as their reputation is affected by 'negative' social media discussions and maybe some 'customer goodwill' might help fix things ..
Surely polite customers are often successful in claiming their rights. Just please don't try to turn around legal responsibility.

I wonder where GPT found the info. I can't find any clear information about warranties in Canada.
Here are some links ChatGPT came up with:





Different provinces seem to formally declare customer rights more or less explicitly.
 
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@harkpabst .. not quite sure if this was directed at my comment, but can you clarify .. 'Just please don't try to turn around legal responsibility'.
He meant that dealers should be customer oriented and display a corresponding attitude towards their customers beyond and in addition to legal warranty responsibilites. Not vice versa. Even though politeness works both ways.
 
He meant that dealers should be customer oriented and display a corresponding attitude towards their customers beyond and in addition to legal warranty responsibilites. Not vice versa. Even though politeness works both ways.
fair comment, at the very least i expect a retailer or anybody hoping to sell me almost anything to be 'customer orientated' but the term 'turning around legal responsibilty' was used. No biggi life goes on (y) hopefully the OP will get their unit returned fully working.
 
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