Lossless on Spotify Premium Available on WiiM

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Spotify Premium has officially started rolling out Lossless Audio, delivering studio-quality sound to music lovers across the globe. And for WiiM users, Spotify’s new high-fidelity streaming is fully compatible with WiiM devices through Spotify Connect. When Lossless Audio on Spotify rolls out to your Premium account, you'll be able to play it on your WiiM devices.

With support for up to 24-bit/44.1 kHz FLAC, Spotify Premium now offers richer, more detailed playback across nearly every track in its catalog. Whether you're rediscovering old favorites or diving into new releases, the listening experience is elevated to a whole new level.

WiiM users can enjoy seamless integration via Spotify Connect, just enable Lossless in your Spotify app settings and let your WiiM device do the rest.

Ready to hear the difference?

Read Spotify’s official announcement and start streaming in Lossless today. Check out this video courtesy of Spotify:
View attachment Spotify lossless_setup_4-5.mp4

 

[Burnside]

Have a look on this:

Rather pointless video as it ignores bit perfect streamers like WiiM which do support lossless Spotify…

 

[HighNRG]

Rather pointless video as it ignores bit perfect streamers like WiiM which do support lossless Spotify…

Rather sure this was mentioned every time this video pops up

 

[Burnside]

Rather sure this was mentioned every time this video pops up

Because it’s a valid point to counteract its title and contents in the context of WiiM streamers. People post it here as if it’s an issue, but it isn’t for WiiM owners.

 

[HighNRG]

Fully agree, Sir!

 

[Multiway]

What are zero order crossovers?


If he has a certain point here or not solely depends on how Spotify was served to the playback device.


How did you play Spotify and Qobuz to the WiiM Pro? Did you use the Connect feature from a phone in both cases?

In the Multi Entry Horn case zero order crossovers as I understand it, are where the physical design of the enclosure provide acoustic crossovers for the mid and low frequency drivers.
The drivers are bandpass limited by this and then PEQs and/or FIR used to ensure the drivers are not damaged by too low or too high frequencies getting to them.
There are no higher order crossovers 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc order with names like Butterworth, Bessel, Linkwitz Riley etc.
I do use a single 3uF cap on my 15ohm Compression drivers to protect them. That is 1st order phase coherent that gives rise to a 90degree phase rotation.
So say you can't hear 90degree phase rotation especially if the change in phase is spread over a wider frequency range.
The mid and low frequency drivers are robust enough not to need trad XOs.
This works very well at hifi volume levels. At full PA dB you would need to protect the drivers further.

I used the connect feature on both Qobuz and Spotify.

I have used Bubble uPnP and mConnect - DLNA and stream Qobuz with a Sonore Ultrarendu streamer.
This is getting Qobuz Connect very soon, so I'll try it then. Spotify Lossless Connect with Ultrarendu is also on the way, some time in the future.

I've been very impressed with Wiim's streamers - bit perfect and all that. Plus they had the Connect features fully working very quickly.

 

[Multiway]

Nice review. Would it be possible to share the playlist you used for testing?

I'll dig it out.

 

[Multiway]

Nice review. Would it be possible to share the playlist you used for testing?

Here you go.




Tried to have a mix of older and newer, varied dynamics, deep bass, disarming vocals etc etc

 

[huw]

Spotify are all at their 24/44, regardless of what they've procured from the record labels etc

I tested the ones in that playlist not marked with "Hi-Res Audio" with Spotify Connect and in all cases the DAC showed 16bit/44.1 kHz....

 

[Multiway]

I tested the ones in that playlist not marked with "Hi-Res Audio" with Spotify Connect and in all cases the DAC showed 16bit/44.1 kHz....

Interesting.
My DSP DAC pre set up doesn't show the streaming data.

If Spotify are not changing the bit rate on Red Book sources, what are they doing to it??
I wonder what else could causing quite a noticeable difference in sound between Qobuz and Spotify on Red Book comparables.

My eldest daughter is now trialling Qobuz Vs Spotify on her own (2 month free sub Qobuz offered me to share with 3 people).
She uses a Pixel phone and Bose Headphones.
She is now quite keen to drop Spotify and we do a Qobuz family subscription instead!
Her partner will also trial and other 2nd daughter / partner is going to trial the 3rd free subscription
These 2 are died in the wool 'Spotificists', but they liked the lossless upgrade. Will they hear the Qobuz effect?
Again both use hi-end latest Bluetooth headphones.

 

[huw]

If Spotify are not changing the bit rate on Red Book sources, what are they doing to it??

Why would they do anything?

When Spotify advertised "up to 24-bit/44.1 kHz FLAC" I assumed if they had a CD quality file they'd stream it at 16-bit/44.1 kHz and any high resolution files they had would be down-sampled to 24-bit/44.1 kHz.

There are plenty of reasons to prefer Qobuz to Spotify - the amount they pay per stream for starters - but I don't see a reason why if both Qobuz and Spotify have the same 16-bit/44.1 kHz or 24-bit/44.1 kHz version of a track both services would not stream the exact same file?

 

[Multiway]

Why would they do anything?

When Spotify advertised "up to 24-bit/44.1 kHz FLAC" I assumed if they had a CD quality file they'd stream it at 16-bit/44.1 kHz and any high resolution files they had would be down-sampled to 24-bit/44.1 kHz.

There are plenty of reasons to prefer Qobuz to Spotify - the amount they pay per stream for starters - but I don't see a reason why if both Qobuz and Spotify have the same 16-bit/44.1 kHz or 24-bit/44.1 kHz version of a track both services would not stream the exact same file?

I would agree.
But for me and many others they sound different!

I don't see it as the usual confirmation bias either.
We've done several back to back blind tests.
Different releases could be one explanation but as you say, why?

It's very strange.

Spotify themselves eluded to the fact they spent ages doing extensive listening tests to get to what they are delivering..

I think they are EQing / processing somehow.
The bit and sampling rates would be the same..

I have no proof of this, yet!