More inputs please! And maybe a tape loop?

[ralphs99]

Another 1x digital and 1x analog inputs would be great!

While I'm at it, maybe a tape loop as well? ie a fixed volume output derived from the source input to go to a recording device, and a return that can be sent to the main outputs for monitoring in place of the source input. Does that make sense?

In other words, when monitoring from a recording device that's recording from the selected source input, the signal path would be: Source --> Fixed out; Recorder return --> Main output

Probably a niche application, but would be awesome!

Cheers, Ralph

 

[rccarguy]

And sometimes people make jokes that are out of place, and they laugh at them alone.

Not really since tape function could be used to "copy" material, the whole thing with HDCP nonsense, if people want to copy far easier ways to do it that audio out from a source.

Also if it's able to output uncopyprotected audio from a encrypted source, they'll probably clamp down on that.

 

[taube Taube]

Not really since tape function could be used to "copy" material, the whole thing with HDCP nonsense, if people want to copy far easier ways to do it that audio out from a source.

Also if it's able to output uncopyprotected audio from a encrypted source, they'll probably clamp down on that.

With the advent of streaming services, stealing music and videos has become pointless because the prices have become affordable. Torrents and file-sharing networks are dying. And terrorism has increased.

 

[rccarguy]

With the advent of streaming services, stealing music and videos has become pointless because the prices have become affordable. Torrents and file-sharing networks are dying. And terrorism has increased.

Torrents aren't dying. No one would steal Spotify as it's low bitrate
Agree there is a certain terrorist state that's murdered tens of thousands in Gaza stealing land and now starting in west bank

Also that video is a laugh, the whole concept of piracy funding terrorists is complete nonsense

 

[goodmore]

And an 8 track slot

 

[harkpabst]

If your streamer plays any music, it's already on a hard drive or online, and easily accessible! I can't understand why it needs to be recorded on tape? If this is a hobby for a select few, then you need to buy the right equipment, not look for it in the mass market.

Even if this thread gets flooded with posts of community members who know best what is required for the "mass market" (like external linear power supplies and XLR outputs ) some might still express their opinion that a high level analogue stereo output that is not regulated by the volume control can be put to good use.

 

[taube Taube]

a high level analogue stereo output that is not regulated by the volume control can be put to good use.

The statement is too general. Could you give some good usage examples?

 

[merifon]

The statement is too general. Could you give some good usage examples?

As exemple, a miniDSP Flex for Dirac, inserted in the tape monitor loop. The fixed level makes it better than inserting it between pre and amplifier (if available) as S/N ratio.

 

[taube Taube]

As exemple, a miniDSP Flex for Dirac, inserted in the tape monitor loop. The fixed level makes it better than inserting it between pre and amplifier (if available) as S/N ratio.

Similarly, you can connect a DSP between the wiims output and the amplifier input and use the volume control on the amplifier. What's the purpose of this loop in the streamer?

 

[merifon]

Similarly, you can connect a DSP between the wiims output and the amplifier input and use the volume control on the amplifier. What's the purpose of this loop in the streamer?

I was generally praising the concept of tape monitor. In a streamer only, like the pro or the pro plus it makes not sense but in something like the WiiM ultra used as preamp or in the WiiM amp, a tape monitor loop could be useful, mainly to insert some external processor, since the use of tape recorders is effectively rare today.

 

[rccarguy]

The statement is too general. Could you give some good usage examples?

I guess a pro logic decoder processor.. .pretty obsolete use now though

 

[taube Taube]

mainly to insert some external processor, since the use of tape recorders is effectively rare today.

Sorry, but we were talking about an analog connection fot tape recorder, then we get a bunch of conversions: digital to analog at the streamer output, then analog to digital in the DSP, then digital to analog in the DSP, then analog to digital at the streamer input, and finally, analog to digital again? Am I right? That's complete nonsense! Wouldn't it be easier to output a digital signal to the DSP and use its DAC?

 

[rccarguy]

Sorry, but we were talking about an analog connection fot tape recorder, with a bunch of conversions: digital to analog in the streamer, then analog to digital in the DSP, then digital to analog in the DSP, then analog to digital at the streamer input, and finally, analog to digital again? Am I right? That's complete nonsense! Wouldn't it be easier to output a digital signal to the DSP and use its DAC?

Yes you can do that minidsp can

Fixed level Tape loop typically used for tape deck, minidisc , VHS, old school eq, pro logic surround decoder... basically for record/listen and monitoring

No use with new gear

 

[harkpabst]

It doesn't matter if every old (or young) grump needs more analogue inputs and outputs. It's perfectly fine if just enough people find this useful.

Luckly it's WiiM's job to decide if or if not this makes sense in a future product. Technically, it's impossible to add physical inputs and outputs to the existing WiiM Ultra, so this feature request is not really applicable.

 

[hgo58]

It doesn't matter if every old (or young) grump needs more analogue inputs and outputs. It's perfectly fine if just enough people find this useful.

Luckly it's WiiM's job to decide if or if not this makes sense in a future product. Technically, it's impossible to add physical inputs and outputs to the existing WiiM Ultra, so this feature request is not really applicable.

Just add another WiiM and use its input/output, problem solved.

 

[harkpabst]

Just add another WiiM and use its input/output, problem solved.

I don't have any particular problem to solve. My tape recorder is my least important source and target.

I just dislike the fact how it's become fashionable to talk down plain anything, because "nobody needs that" or - even more disgusting - because "I don't need that and will look elsewhere if this is implemented".

Yes, some requests don't make much sense, but wherever there is demand, WiiM will be smart enough to detect it. I don't need a device with more inputs and outputs, but I won't talk it down just because ... whatever.

 

[hgo58]

I don't have any particular problem to solve. My tape recorder is my least important source and target.

I just dislike the fact how it's become fashionable to talk down plain anything, because "nobody needs that" or - even more disgusting - because "I don't need that and will look elsewhere if this is implemented".

Yes, some requests don't make much sense, but wherever there is demand, WiiM will be smart enough to detect it. I don't need a device with more inputs and outputs, but I won't talk it down just because ... whatever.

Not talking it down in any way. I have just provided an alternative solution for the requirement, that I use myself.

https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/more-inputs-please-and-maybe-a-tape-loop.8953/post-165980

 

[harkpabst]

Not talking it down in any way. I have just provided an alternative solution for the requirement, that I use myself.

https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/more-inputs-please-and-maybe-a-tape-loop.8953/post-165980

And I certainly took note of this very much noteworthy workaround.

 

[r5yk5]

should we ask wiim to release a "cassette streamer" that combines a tape recorder and a streamer into a single unit?

I really would buy that.

As it is I just plug my wiims analogue output into my tape deck's input.

 

[rccarguy]

I really would buy that.

As it is I just plug my wiims analogue output into my tape deck's input.

It'll just have the same awful mech, no Dolby b/c/s or chrome and metal tape support

Why release useless products. Just get a old tape desk that's been refurbished and checked over, new belts etc

 

[Horsey]

Keeping the USB output is great with some internal storage option. Would like to make an upgrade from the WiiM Pro but would strong preference for a design to allow for external power options.

It appears there's growing evidence among audio manufacturers that many streaming devices may benefit from a LPS but apparently more so with the low-ripple battery type powered options. Thank you, WiiM!