Question about Airplay support for WiiM Ultra by WiiM mini

[buitbyty]

The indexArtwork folder needs to be in the root of the path you specify in MinimServer (which is probably the root of your music library).
In you placed "The Rolling Stones.jpg" in this folder the image will appear in the Artist (AlbumArtist) and All Artists (Track Artist) index.

Does it matter if the artist does or doesn’t have spaces in the name id the artist name is more than one word? Does the file type matter?

 

[QuarryHunslet]

I know nothing about macOS so I have no idea if it'll start on boot, but MinimServer can be configured to scan on startup by setting:

startupScan: true

I will see what happens tomorrow.

 

[simbun]

Does it matter if the artist does or doesn’t have spaces in the name id the artist name is more than one word? Does the file type matter?

It needs to match the value in the artist tag except for those characters that aren't valid in filenames.
From memory JPG and PNG are accepted.

Other features

minimserver.com

 

[buitbyty]

It needs to match the value in the artist tag except for those characters that aren't valid in filenames.
From memory JPG and PNG are accepted.

Other features

minimserver.com

Thank you. I have a lot of ripping to do. lol

 

[simbun]

Thank you. I have a lot of ripping to do. lol

Just make sure to keep ALL the tags that your ripping software provides, at least to start with as it's much more difficult to populate them afterwards.

Box sets are probably the only area where you may want to deviate from the ripper defaults e.g.The Beatles In Mono:

Album               | DiscSubtitle
The Beatles In Mono | Please Please Me
The Beatles In Mono | With The Beatles
...

 

[buitbyty]

Just make sure to keep ALL the tags that your ripping software provides, at least to start with as it's much more difficult to populate them afterwards.

Box sets are probably the only area where you may want to deviate from the ripper defaults e.g.The Beatles In Mono:

Album               | DiscSubtitle
The Beatles In Mono | Please Please Me
The Beatles In Mono | With The Beatles
...

I’m letting dppoweramp do most of my tagging. I’m just ensuring that the artist name for their image matches how it was ripped.

 

[Hiphiman]

I really like my Raspberry Pi LMS setup and use it in conjunction with a WiiM device most days. If I have any reservation about LMS, it is that its open source nature, which is an advantage in so many ways, also means it’s dependent on a small number of enthusiastic and altruistic individuals to develop it and keep it current. Being unfunded and voluntary, there will rightly come a time when, for any reason, their contributions will diminish or stop (there is a recent example) and it is not obvious to me where their successors will come from. This in no way diminishes my gratitude for previous and currently ongoing achievements.

What is the recent example?

I'd also like to know.

I would prefer not to name them directly as I have no idea of their circumstances other than their contribution to different LMS forums has fallen markedly in the last 6 months. My only point is that loss of such precious individuals could have a major impact on the project going forward.
Of course, I may be reading too much into forum inactivity since the same observation could be made about our own Founding Moderator

 

[castalla]

I would prefer not to name them directly as I have no idea of their circumstances other than their contribution to different LMS forums has fallen markedly in the last 6 months. My only point is that loss of such precious individuals could have a major impact on the project going forward.
Of course, I may be reading too much into forum inactivity since the same observation could be made about our own Founding Moderator

I've settled on the 8 series of LMS on Win10. No major changes, no massive updates, works 99% of the time. Perfect. Almost 100% bus-proof

 

[Burnside]

Of course, I may be reading too much into forum inactivity since the same observation could be made about our own Founding Moderator

I know, whatever happened to him?

 

[simbun]

I’m letting dppoweramp do most of my tagging. I’m just ensuring that the artist name for their image matches how it was ripped.

I've just had a look at the defaults and I would change (CD Ripper Options > Tags & Filenames > Meta Data & ID Tag > Options)

• PerfectMeta Options
  • Disable 'Replace 'The [artist]' with '[artist], The'
• Write ID Tags:
  • Enable 'Album Artist Sort'
  • Enable 'Artist Sort'
  • Enable 'MBID'

This gives you the option to view "lastname, firstname" if you so choose.

MBID are a bunch of keys that link to the MusicBrainz database. These can be used to simplify subsequent tagging but are also used by servers to build a more relational model of the data e.g. to link the original release of an album with a remaster.

All of these are easily removed if you never find a use for them, as are many of the other defaults e.g. Source, Endcoded By, Encoder, Encoder Settings e.t.c.

I'd rip 20 or so discs, making sure to include some compilations and possibly a box set, then start to play around with how you want things displayed in your control point (WiiM Home App I believe).

 

[d6jg]

I've just had a look at the defaults and I would change (CD Ripper Options > Tags & Filenames > Meta Data & ID Tag > Options)

• PerfectMeta Options
  • Disable 'Replace 'The [artist]' with '[artist], The'
• Write ID Tags:
  • Enable 'Album Artist Sort'
  • Enable 'Artist Sort'
  • Enable 'MBID'

This gives you the option to view "lastname, firstname" if you so choose.

MBID are a bunch of keys that link to the MusicBrainz database. These can be used to simplify subsequent tagging but are also used by servers to build a more relational model of the data e.g. to link the original release of an album with a remaster.

All of these are easily removed if you never find a use for them, as are many of the other defaults e.g. Source, Endcoded By, Encoder, Encoder Settings e.t.c.

I'd rip 20 or so discs, making sure to include some compilations and possibly a box set, then start to play around with how you want things displayed in your control point (WiiM Home App I believe).

I have to disagree. MB has far too many errors. I avoid it at all costs.

I also don’t subscribe to moving “The” or “Last, First”. This is because I use LMS which has settings to deal with The, Le, La, Les etc and because I integrate my Qobuz library where (like all the online Music servers I have tried) the concept of Last, First just doesn’t exist so David Bowie is indexed as such under D.

 

[buitbyty]

21 CDs ripped so far.

 

[simbun]

I have to disagree. MB has far too many errors. I avoid it at all costs.

I've relied solely on MusicBrainz to tag my collection and I've encountered very few errors. What source do you use?

I also don’t subscribe to moving “The” or “Last, First”. This is because I use LMS which has settings to deal with The, Le, La, Les etc and because I integrate my Qobuz library where (like all the online Music servers I have tried) the concept of Last, First just doesn’t exist so David Bowie is indexed as such under D.

Yes the 'The, Le, La, Les etc" can be handled by any decent server so no need to change it in the tag.

I'm not integrating with an online service so I'm free to pick what I prefer (Last, First for indexes and First Last in album/track listings), but they're easy to remove should you need to.

 

[buitbyty]

I've just had a look at the defaults and I would change (CD Ripper Options > Tags & Filenames > Meta Data & ID Tag > Options)

• PerfectMeta Options
  • Disable 'Replace 'The [artist]' with '[artist], The'
• Write ID Tags:
  • Enable 'Album Artist Sort'
  • Enable 'Artist Sort'
  • Enable 'MBID'

This gives you the option to view "lastname, firstname" if you so choose.

MBID are a bunch of keys that link to the MusicBrainz database. These can be used to simplify subsequent tagging but are also used by servers to build a more relational model of the data e.g. to link the original release of an album with a remaster.

All of these are easily removed if you never find a use for them, as are many of the other defaults e.g. Source, Endcoded By, Encoder, Encoder Settings e.t.c.

I'd rip 20 or so discs, making sure to include some compilations and possibly a box set, then start to play around with how you want things displayed in your control point (WiiM Home App I believe).

The most I may have a double disc cd. I don’t have any box sets so I’m good there.

 

[simbun]

The most I may have a double disc cd. I don’t have any box sets so I’m good there.

That simplifies things somewhat.

 

[d6jg]

I've relied solely on MusicBrainz to tag my collection and I've encountered very few errors. What source do you use?


Yes the 'The, Le, La, Les etc" can be handled by any decent server so no need to change it in the tag.

I'm not integrating with an online service so I'm free to pick what I prefer (Last, First for indexes and First Last in album/track listings), but they're easy to remove should you need to.

I do use MB as a source but don’t write MB tags.

Probably nearly 50% of my library is Vinyl ripped Flacs. MB has little idea about Vinyl and if you use it here it will insist that such is some CD release or other and will add spurious data or incorrect track titles because the CD order is different.

For CD ripping MB tags are only really of any value when you have two identically named artists in your library - James Taylor for example - but here I would add the MBID tag manually to differentiate. LMS will recognise the two entities as different in such case. Other than that I let dbPoweramp do its stuff but will correct anomalies with mp3tag if necessary.

My integration of Qobuz is the primary reason not to use Sort tags but it may amuse you to know that as far as my physical media is concerned David Bowie is in the Bs

 

[simbun]

For CD ripping MB tags are only really of any value when you have two identically named artists in your library - James Taylor for example - but here I would add the MBID tag manually to differentiate.

One of the uses for the MB artist id tags is to track an artist across name changes e.g. Diddy, otherwise discographies get split up.

My integration of Qobuz is the primary reason not to use Sort tags but it may amuse you to know that as far as my physical media is concerned David Bowie is in the Bs

If I can't have a 'Last, First' sort AND display in a server then I'm out; my brain hurts when scanning down a list where the display isn't sorted.
For CDs I don't have that luxury.

 

[d6jg]

One of the uses for the MB artist id tags is to track an artist across name changes e.g. Diddy, otherwise discographies get split up.


If I can't have a 'Last, First' sort AND display in a server then I'm out; my brain hurts when scanning down a list where the display isn't sorted.
For CDs I don't have that luxury.

Off Topic but I would love to see a rethink of tagging generally. I’d advocate totally separate indexing and display tags.

My example.
BB King & Eric Clapton : Riding With The King

For indexing (multi value)
Eric Clapton or Clapton, Eric
BB King or King, BB

For display
BB King & Eric Clapton

I can achieve this in LMS to some extent but some players insists on showing both Album Artist (used for indexing) and Artist (display) so the string that appears on screen is Eric Clapton, BB King, BB King & Eric Clapton which is obviously wrong.

 

[d6jg]

One of the uses for the MB artist id tags is to track an artist across name changes e.g. Diddy, otherwise discographies get split up.

I’d not considered that use and yes I can see it would be handy to combine Ultravox! with Ultravox discography wise. That’s currently the only example in my library that immediately springs to mind.

 

[simbun]

Off Topic but I would love to see a rethink of tagging generally. I’d advocate totally separate indexing and display tags.

My example.
BB King & Eric Clapton : Riding With The King

For indexing (multi value)
Eric Clapton or Clapton, Eric
BB King or King, BB

For display
BB King & Eric Clapton

I've never really looked into it but isn't that what the MusicBrainz ALBUMARTISTS and ARTISTS tags are for (the non-S versions being for display)?

Whilst MinimServer doesn't support multi value AlbumArtist it does allow you to use separate values for sort, index and display.
I have a feeling that Lightweight Music Server may also support this, with the use of the ALBUMARTISTS tags. Maybe I'll try that tomorrow.