Spotify Spotify Lossless is here, it's official!

[Burnside]

If you've selected the volume leveling option in Lyrion's Spotty plugin, it transcodes the Ogg from Spotify to FLAC or PCM. Most likely what you're seeing?

I'm told it's actually a pcm wrapper of that resolution so it's not 100% I'm getting lossless

 

[Eddiefreddie]

Well, I got the notice today! Lossless.. 24/44. Playing on the Wiim Pro I see that it is 'reduced' to 16/44. But it sounds much better, especially in the dynamics.
Everybody seems to care about about losing in the freq spectrum with Mp3/0gg.. however alle information is reduced with compression. That is what stands out with higher res streaming, much better profiled dynamics and more detail and foremost a more balanced soundstage.
Obviously 24/44 is still compressed from the source but so much better then what we had on Spotify. Newer popmusic (in general) has been suffering from loudness wars (upward compression) ruining the dynamics it could have. This will not change much I fear as the masters remain the same.

Anyway attached the Wiim specs while streaming. Hopefully they upgrade to the full..

 

[Burnside]

Well, I got the notice today! Lossless.. 24/44. Playing on the Wiim Pro I see that it is 'reduced' to 16/44. But it sounds much better, especially in the dynamics.
Everybody seems to care about about losing in the freq spectrum with Mp3/0gg.. however alle information is reduced with compression. That is what stands out with higher res streaming, much better profiled dynamics and more detail and foremost a more balanced soundstage.
Obviously 24/44 is still compressed from the source but so much better then what we had on Spotify. Newer popmusic (in general) has been suffering from loudness wars (upward compression) ruining the dynamics it could have. This will not change much I fear as the masters remain the same.

Anyway attached the Wiim specs while streaming. Hopefully they upgrade to the full..

I take it Spotify will stream lossless up to that resolution, not that all tracks will be that full resolution. I guess like the other streaming services, the vast majority will be 16/44.1

 

[Wiimer]

Oh dear, isn't that a bit naive?

Maybe so, but that's my opinion. I think of the platform as a record label. If there is a contractual issue, it's between the two parties.

I don't want to continue the discussion here. Sorry I just get a bit annoyed that every time there is a Spotify thread, someone always comes up with the same complaint

 

[Burnside]

Apparently, the Spotify app requires lossless settings for each WiiM device.
For the moment, I have changed all five WiiM devices to lossless.

To be honest, I'm not sure of the procedure, but if you don't see the 'Lossless' tag on the WiiM device in the Spotify Connect screen, try the following.

1) Ensure that you are getting lossless playback on the phone's speaker.

2) Open the device list and connect to the WiiM while it is playing on the phone's speaker.

3) Open the 'Media sound and Video quality' section of the settings screen, the audio quality setting for the WiiM device is active, as shown here. Select lossless.
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(Apologies for the screenshots in Japanese.)

Hi, does the Wiim app show it’s receiving lossless, or is it as it’s been for a while and you don’t see the bit depth and sample rate there for Spotify Connect?

 

[Wiimer]

Hi, does the Wiim app show it’s receiving lossless, or is it as it’s been for a while and you don’t see the bit depth and sample rate there for Spotify Connect?

Nothing appears on the WHA; the same applies to the Ultra screen. At the moment, on the Spotify app, the name of the connected device is lossless tagged and the rate is displayed when the device is tapped. (I think it's a bug, sometimes nothing is displayed.)

 

[delage]

Just signed up again to Spotify here in the UK and can't see anything showing hires options or playback. So a bit confused, is it live or not?

 

[bwaldron]

Just signed up again to Spotify here in the UK and can't see anything showing hires options or playback. So a bit confused, is it live or not?

It's a phased rollout, I believe. I'm in US and don't yet have it, either.

 

[Burnside]

Just signed up again to Spotify here in the UK and can't see anything showing hires options or playback. So a bit confused, is it live or not?

Please read the press release in the opening post where it says “Lossless is rolling out gradually to more than 50 markets through October. Premium subscribers in Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK have already started to get access.”. It’s like WiiM firmware updates - it’ll get to you eventually

 

[delage]

Please read the press release in the opening post where it says “Lossless is rolling out gradually to more than 50 markets through October. Premium subscribers in Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK have already started to get access.”. It’s like WiiM firmware updates - it’ll get to you eventually

I rushed in

 

[F1 Fan]

I rushed in

Hopefully you’ll get it before your trial runs out

 

[Deleted member 11838]

Maybe so, but that's my opinion. I think of the platform as a record label. If there is a contractual issue, it's between the two parties.

I don't want to continue the discussion here. Sorry I just get a bit annoyed that every time there is a Spotify thread, someone always comes up with the same complaint

...I understand that. I wouldn't want to discuss it either. Have fun!

 

[delage]

Hopefully you’ll get it before your trial runs out

I mean I full-on rushed in with the £20 month family subscription

 

[SKApretto71]

Please read the press release in the opening post where it says “Lossless is rolling out gradually to more than 50 markets through October. Premium subscribers in Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK have already started to get access.”. It’s like WiiM firmware updates - it’ll get to you eventually

Lucky us in Italy

 

[Saponetto]

Huh?
Wasn't it expected to be deployed in October?

 

[Burnside]

Huh?
Wasn't it expected to be deployed in October?

What do you mean? The above quote says it’s already started rolling out now to the named regions and that it will be rolled out to more than 50 regions on October, so perhaps Italy is in that 50

 

[azoriusmage]

I can imagine people are going to be manically restarting their app, checking for an update, and checking their email to see if they have been enabled. For those that already have it did they notify you or did you just notice when checking the playback quality settings? I had the pop on launching the app saying it is coming and that they will notify you so I am curious how they will notify us?

 

[Wiimer]

I can imagine people are going to be manically restarting their app, checking for an update, and checking their email to see if they have been enabled. For those that already have it did they notify you or did you just notice when checking the playback quality settings? I had the pop on launching the app saying it is coming and that they will notify you so I am curious how they will notify us?

It's already available in my country, but I haven't received any notifications.

Probably because I have turned off push notifications for the app

 

[Skull]

I can imagine people are going to be manically restarting their app, checking for an update, and checking their email to see if they have been enabled. For those that already have it did they notify you or did you just notice when checking the playback quality settings? I had the pop on launching the app saying it is coming and that they will notify you so I am curious how they will notify us?

I got an email this morning asking me to update my billing information strange as I only used Spotify free
Be careful what you click on lots of cons on the way

 

[wiimamp user]

It wont costs more as they always said..for instance 5 Euro more then the premium price.
Great news .
From a Dutch site..

Spotify brengt lossless muziek naar Premium zonder extra kosten

Nederlandse Spotify Premium-abonnees kunnen vanaf woensdag gebruikmaken van lossless audiokwaliteit. De functie is beschikbaar voor Premium-gebruikers en vereist dus geen duurder abonnement waarover eerder werd gesproken. De uitrol gaat gefaseerd.

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