What products you'd like to see WiiM produce?
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I think it would be wise for WiiM to stay in the stereo/2.1-market where they are. HomeCinema/AV change much faster and products become old very quickly. A receiver with the same releasedate as the WiiM Mini would be impossible to sell today.
WiiM have something special that very few new brands have, so I think it would be wise not to go into markets where products are mostly «use and throw» or get quickly outdated with a very limited lifespan. At least not yet.
Just my thoughts
WiiM have something special that very few new brands have, so I think it would be wise not to go into markets where products are mostly «use and throw» or get quickly outdated with a very limited lifespan. At least not yet.
Just my thoughts
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Daniel_son0
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A CD player or transport with similar aesthetics to the Ultra, only because the Denon DCD-50 and DCD-100 are a pain to track down
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A CD player or transport with similar aesthetics to the Ultra, only because the Denon DCD-50 and DCD-100 are a pain to track down
But keep it cheap. I’m sure you can make a CD Transport Only for £30.
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My Mini works with Amazon UHD.
So does mine
Unless something has changed .... whilst individually they will, they don't play UHD in a multiroom setting whic is what would be needed as WiiM have suggested unless you want to set the other WiiM's to lower resolution .... this is the whole reason I changed from 3 minis to Pros as I didn't want to have to keep changing the settings every time I went from my critical listening area to multiroom.
The only thing I did ask about at least 6 months ago (maybe a year ago no) was if the mini would be able to play the lower resolution and the others the higher resoltion whilst connected together but I don't thnk they ever managed to implement that one could play hi res and the other default to lower res.
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In no way diminishing your reply, or your situation, but I suspect people needing/all listeners appreciating bit-perfect hi-res in this instance is vanishingly small.
But I take your point.
I think you underestimate the number of people who would benefit from a dialog channel, and the number of people who are having trouble with TV lip synch.
Soundbars solve these problems, but are poor on music.
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Flip side of the same coin and whilst I agree, it is a massively diminishing audience ..... the market you're talking about would be happy with BT connectivity and probably aren't members of Hifi forums and probably don't have a WiiM to start off with and very definitely wouldn't be looking to use a WiiM mini just to run their sub ..... probably because they don't own one.
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Aye, a tiny subset of a tiny subset.
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I don't know why you seem to be looking to pick holes in what I said ... just seems totally unnecessary .... WiiM posted something that I questioned whether it would work in all situations or not, I'm not and never was advocating it as a massive seller and something they should be aiming their market at.
My own personal circumstance, I have one room where the sub's not in the best position due to wiring it to the amp, I have 2 unused minis so to be able to move it to another part of the room and have it work seamlessly without any additional would be brilliant .... but not if I have to keep toggling between hi and low res.
I think you've ASSUMED I was asking a question for one reason when I was asking for a totally different one, I never suggested it should be their next best, greatest selling product .... I simply asked if it'd work or not.
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I posted earlier in the thread I'd love a 3.1 (or 3.2) system as I'm not bothered about the rear channels now.
Since posting that I've become a bit obsessed with ripping my music concert DVD's and trying to get the best out of them.
Something I didn't realise until very recently, with my AVR (Denon 2311), whilst you do a scan / setup and alter the levels for each channel to taste, I thought it remembered the settings for each input .... i.e. DVD player or HDD recorder. I couldn't understand why some programmes sounded great (after manually adjusting to preference) and others, whilst the surround effects were brilliant, you couldn't hear the dialogue and the rears were overpowering.
I discovered about 4/5 days ago, I thought it saved the settings via input but it doesn't, it saves them according to whether it's 2 channel input (which it fabricates 5.1 surround) ...... OR if it's 5.1 / multichannel input.
I'd watch something that was 2 channel and it'd sound brilliant, then watch a movie or music DVD in 5.1 and you couldn't hear the dialogue.
I've changed the settings to match across the board and dialed back the rears which were way too much both with 5.1 for music and films, they're all now crystal clear.
Having discovered that, I've also started trying the various audio recordings on the music DVD, ie. stereo or 5.1, I can switch the AVR to stereo or direct input and with the DVD's select the stereo audio or 5.1.
Having now fairly extensively tested all the scenarios and have turned the rears down so much it wouldn't make much difference if they were there or not.
Playing the DVD as stereo and letting the AVR decide what goes to the centre / mains and sub .... the sound is absolutely incredible, the centre is the vocalist in the middle of the stage and the rest of the band placed where they should be.
I will just add .... I'm using a HT Bypass setup at the moment and all of my music is played as straight stereo through my integrated without a sub, I think 5.1 or more has gone out of vogue but I still think it's nice to have control of dialogue for films / music DVD's etc. but probabaly not necessary for most stereo music situations.
Just my 2.5 p's worth.
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That's easy. A dedicated power amp that's the same form factor as the WiiM Ultra so you could create a stack. Probably class D with PFFB. It would need more power than the WiiM Amp Pro.
Down the line, a 16-channel AVR or pre-pro would be awesome, but you would need to make sure your room correction is top notch.
Down the line, a 16-channel AVR or pre-pro would be awesome, but you would need to make sure your room correction is top notch.
Wow, I did not know till now you’re member of this forum. I watch your video on YouTube.
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Thank you. I'm in the process of reviewing the Ultra now, and it's in my notes that they should come out with their own dedicated amp. They already know how to do amps as proven with their WiiM Amp line.
Indeed, if they can increase the power a lot more than what they offer 60 watt on 8 ohms. Class D are very efficient and can provide power on a small enclosure in contrast of class ab which are heavy and waste energy on heat. Crown amp which are class D and provide a lot of power for the money but they are PA amp. I see them being use in hifi on YouTube and not sure if it’s sound good.
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To be clear, my first post said (word for word):
“In no way diminishing your reply, or your situation, but I suspect people needing/all listeners appreciating bit-perfect hi-res in this instance is vanishingly small.
But I take your point.”
I’m not convinced that’s the language of someone trying to aggressive.
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Are we allowed to ask?
Were you put under any sort of embargo?
Any idea why the reviews are trickling out?
Many thanks.
