Which output to feed headphone amplifier

[gazza1101]

I currently use the headphone out to mainly listen to tv when my wife goes to bed but I also use it to listen to music if my wife is watching some tv that I don't enjoy, the Ultra is across the room so I drape the cable across the floor, not a big issue but I thought I had found a way to get around it.
My idea was to use a subwoofer cable that is already routed from the ultra location to where I watch tv from the coax out of the Ultra into the coax in of a Fiio k11r2r but unfortunately on connecting it up this way I get no output into my headphones, I guessing the subwoofer cable is the problem, although these cables seem to be usually compatible.
I am happy with the headphone out on the ultra and use the eq to change the sound of my headphones a .little (Focal Celestee) but I have read good things about the Fiio and wanted to give it a try.
My question is it's around 7m around the walls of my room and what would be the best cable to use to run around this, the Fiio has optical, usb and coax in?
Im guessing not optical as imagine it could be easier to damage it

 

[Mr Ee]

guessing the subwoofer cable is the problem, although these cables seem to be usually compatible.

And if you move the k11 closer and try a different cable (even one half of the rca that came with the ultra) does it work?

Have you set the k11 to "PO" (Phone out) or "LO" (Line out)?
What does the k11 screen show? Very small text, just above the volume number.

I'm also assuming you've set the k11 to coax input

 

[gazza1101]

And if you move the k11 closer and try a different cable (even one half of the rca that came with the ultra) does it work?

Have you set the k11 to "PO" (Phone out) or "LO" (Line out)?
What does the k11 screen show? Very small text, just above the volume number.

I'm also assuming you've set the k11 to coax input

Thanks for the reply, yes it is on po and and coax in.
I get audio out using headphones if I use my normal coax cable and using usb in.
Do you think that the subwoofer cable is just too long?
Maybe a usb would be better.
I have just had a new shorter (8m) coax/subwoofer cable delivered, I'm unable to try today but will tomorrow, but it is a fairly chunky cable and would not lend itself easily to route around the room.

 

[WiiMer SJ]

Consider adding a Mini dedicated to serving your K11 at whatever location you choose.

Edit: This may be heresy here, but you don't need a WiiM to listen to music. Connect a phone, tablet or laptop directly to the K11 via USB.

 

[Mr Ee]

Consider adding a Mini dedicated to serving your K11 at whatever location you choose.

Funny you should say that; it's how I was using my k11 r2r for a couple of weeks.
It was an almost portable HP setup!

you don't need a WiiM to listen to music

Is this grounds for expulsion from the forum!!
But again, I have a normal k11 which I often use with a phone and usb, but it does have a mini attached to it too.

 

[slartibartfast]

Edit: This may be heresy here, but you don't need a WiiM to listen to music.

Absolutely. If it wasn't for the bass management I would have stuck with a Raspberry Pi and my Audiolab amp

 

[WiiMer SJ]

Thanks @Mr Ee & @slartibartfast for not having me excommunicated!

 

[gazza1101]

Funny you should say that; it's how I was using my k11 r2r for a couple of weeks.
It was an almost portable HP setup!


Is this grounds for expulsion from the forum!!
But again, I have a normal k11 which I often use with a phone and usb, but it does have a mini attached to it too.

Does the mini have eq?

 

[Burnside]

Does the mini have eq?

Yeah, same EQ/peq as other devices just no separate L/R peq (as yet?)

 

[Mr Ee]

Does the mini have eq?

Yes, graphic and parametric, but not room correction, which is not an issue for headphones!

 

[gazza1101]

Thanks gor the replies, this looks like the easier option
While I have it I'm trying it with the Ultra via usb, need to listen more yet to form an opinion.

 

[gazza1101]

The main reason to buy this Headphone amp is for tv use, which is across the room connected to my Ultra via a line out on my amplifier, if I was to connect a Mini and have the mini in a group with the Ultra would there be any noticeable delay because it would be tv sound and that would not be ideal?

 

[hgo58]

The main reason to buy this Headphone amp is for tv use, which is across the room connected to my Ultra via a line out on my amplifier, if I was to connect a Mini and have the mini in a group with the Ultra would there be any noticeable delay because it would be tv sound and that would not be ideal?

For TV, why not just use the Bluetooth output from the WiiM Ultra to a pair of BT headphones?

 

[WiiMer SJ]

The main reason to buy this Headphone amp is for tv use, which is across the room connected to my Ultra via a line out on my amplifier, if I was to connect a Mini and have the mini in a group with the Ultra would there be any noticeable delay because it would be tv sound and that would not be ideal?

Sorry, I did not understand that TV watching was the primary intent.
Yes there will be a delay, and not one you easily ignore. For watching TV you're better off with a long headphone cable and being mindful of the trip hazard.

 

[DoubleTap]

I run lineout + sub for speakers so I basically have to run USB out for my headphone amp (which is fine, no drawbacks) because USB defeats the bass management - if I use coax or optical, then I'll have to turn the sub settings on and off all the time....

 

[gazza1101]

Thanks for the replies, I have a wiim pro in my games room, I should try it to find out for myself
Bluetooth headphones would do it but I really like my headphones and enjoy using them, too easy
I have the fiio in my hifi location at the moment and while I have it there I am using the dac out of the Wiim Ultra, I am enjoying it and have tried to A/B it to the dac in my Arcam amp, it's difficult because the fiio dac has a little more output so trying to level match and switch outputs is a little fiddly, to be honest I cannot tell too much difference, but I find this every time I have tried different dacs in the past, not sure if it's my ears or my system.

 

[WiiMer SJ]

Thanks for the replies, I have a wiim pro in my games room, I should try it to find out for myself

Yes, you should! One of the best things about WiiM products is that they lend themselves to experimentation.

Bluetooth headphones would do it but I really like my headphones and enjoy using them.......

Take a look at Fiio's BTR series of products, or one of their many competitors. I have a BTR 11 and BTR 3K and am very happy with them.

 

[gazza1101]

I tried my Wiim pro, too much delay
I may just use the Fiio at my seating position and use the headphone out on the Ultra for tv because my wife is in bed when I'm watching tv at night and I was always happy with the sound of it.