So the digital cables have you tried, amount to just a $2 optical and you are lecturing others due to your ignorance. Enjoy the music on your $2 cable! You think companies like Chord and everyone else is having you on and that professionals wouldn't notice? Thats paranoid. Now after '40yrs in the field' and a $2 cable you are now policing a streaming forum with an ego-tripped paranoia fuelled disposition and nothing to back it up with! Cheers, glad you clarified that for us all!
Wiim Ultra with external DAC: what output?
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Wow you searching my profiling name, this is creepy!!! I have a stalker now! Yes, the Naim forum is very good! But, not for you as people there are too snake oil for you!!!
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I was just guessing. But that is quite obvious anyway. Thanks for confirming.
Too late, the cat is out the bag, you stalk people!
How is it obvious? I have never once said on this forum that I own a Naim product, because I don't. So for you to guess it, is too much a stretch!
So far, we have a stalker called 'Aquaman' on this forum and someone called HGO58 giving digital cable advice who has only used a $2 optical cable.
Anyone else, like to reveal themselves as very weird too?
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No, that is the one I use now. I have tried many cables and all works the same.
Or knowledge.
I do.
They are in it for the money.
Recording studios do not prioritize ultra-expensive digital cables like those from Chord.
Why?
Because digital audio signals (e.g., AES/EBU, S/PDIF) are robust and designed to be error-corrected. As long as the cable meets the technical specifications (impedance, shielding, etc.), there is no audible difference between a well-made, affordable cable and a high-end boutique cable.
Unless you have tried the differences for yourself, stop giving crap advice! Stick to you $2 cable and enjoy life but don't criticise other unless you have tried for yourself on a fairly decent system, which people who tend to buy these cables tend to own!
It now says, I have 'You have insufficient privileges to reply here' - I had to edit this post.
So farewell! Enjoy the $2 advice you'll get on this forum folks, adios!
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You clearly have a problem with people who have a different opinion from you or just disagree with you.
Your ad hominem comments are not witty or funny , just tedious.
Everybody's world is built on their knowledge and experience. You happen to live in one in which you believe things that others don't so just accept that and stop trying to preach your own "audio nirvana" to those who disagree and who, in my view, know better
I don't want to be part of the ongoing 'argument', but purely for technical clarification for anyone else still reading and seeing comparisons between video and audio :
One cannot compare digitised video with digitised audio as they are completly different.
With video, a higher resolution (more pixels) equates to more information.
This is not the case for audio - higher sample rates simply allow higher frequencies to be represented, while bit depth is all and only about noise.
Once there are enough samples to represent.a frequency one has all the information required. Additional samples are then simply more data, not more information.
Even though high sample rate files may contain more information, being for those higher frequencies, what do the vast majority of dacs do with that information? They filter it out at 20khz (ish) with their reconstruction filter.
i.e. in reality, high sample rate files just have more data - there is absolutely not more information for audible frequencies. More samples per second does not equate to a smoother analog curve, despite what marketing wants you to believe with their misleading stair step diagrams..
Your delta sigma dac will be able to resolve 21 or maybe 22 bits before the signal is lost in the inherent device noise itself.
If you are using an r2r dac, due to the resistor tolerances it's more like 13 or 14 bits at the output.
Please note that I am not saying that high sample rates / bit depths are pointless. There are indeed very good reasons for them during recording / mixing, even though imo 192khz is excessive!
But for playback...?
One cannot compare digitised video with digitised audio as they are completly different.
With video, a higher resolution (more pixels) equates to more information.
This is not the case for audio - higher sample rates simply allow higher frequencies to be represented, while bit depth is all and only about noise.
Once there are enough samples to represent.a frequency one has all the information required. Additional samples are then simply more data, not more information.
Even though high sample rate files may contain more information, being for those higher frequencies, what do the vast majority of dacs do with that information? They filter it out at 20khz (ish) with their reconstruction filter.
i.e. in reality, high sample rate files just have more data - there is absolutely not more information for audible frequencies. More samples per second does not equate to a smoother analog curve, despite what marketing wants you to believe with their misleading stair step diagrams..
Your delta sigma dac will be able to resolve 21 or maybe 22 bits before the signal is lost in the inherent device noise itself.
If you are using an r2r dac, due to the resistor tolerances it's more like 13 or 14 bits at the output.
Please note that I am not saying that high sample rates / bit depths are pointless. There are indeed very good reasons for them during recording / mixing, even though imo 192khz is excessive!
But for playback...?
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Yes, assuming the external DAC has a USB input.
An external DAC plugged into any Coax/Optical/USB output will bypass the internal WiiM DAC. Only the user can decide which is preferable including by listening comparison with the WiiM DAC itself & if this is preferred, no need to attach an external DAC.
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Ok bye. Your aggressive demeanor is not welcome and tolerated here. (You are the one that made it personal.)
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What is your stance on Audiophile directional fuses going for £8000?
You will not get one on this thread. Mogily DM'ed me to say he has neen banned from posting replies
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