Ongoing Beta Beta Testing: Wireless Dolby 5.1 for WiiM Ultra

Isn't that already accomplished with smart presets?
How?

I only see that if you always use Presets for changing output. And then you will now have to select both what RC to use and what EQ to use. That is not available.

As I see it a output will have to be associated with a RC profile just as a input is associated with an EQ profile.
 
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Isn't that already accomplished with smart presets?
It's still just one combined EQ.

The main advantage of having this separated is that you can have one set of "Room EQs" (or headphone EQs) dealing with outer listening conditions and a completely different set of EQ settings to suit your taste or mood or the programme type you're listening to.

With current smart presets you still had to manually "merge" all possible combinations into one resulting EQ.
 
Hi dominikz,

Your understanding is mostly correct, with one exception - both GEQ and PEQ are available for input sound customization.
Thank you again for your valuable insights!
Thanks for the quick response @WiiM Support!

So just to see if I got that correctly, in the new app+FW version we will have:
  • GEQ or PEQ configuration for each input
  • Another PEQ configuration for each output
  • Room Correction result will apply to a specific output PEQ
  • We will be able to enable and use input PEQ/GEQ configuration at the same time when output PEQ/RC configuration is also enabled
Is the above a correct summary?
 
Yes, I think understand.

You mean the PEQ per output feature will be added? I misunderstood because the team didn't say that explicitly.

I was under the impression that these functions would be associated with the presets and that 2 EQs would be selectable on the preset edit screen.
 
That is not how I understand it.

I read it as two stages. First the RC as a PEQ created by the measures and then either a PEQ or GEQ define manually as today.
I was explicitly replying to what is already available now with smart presets, contrasting this with the expected improvements.

So, yes, I understood it just like you did.
 
If rc was used and then use geq, isn’t that defy the logic of rc?
Not really.

The purpose of RC is to tame/remove room resonances in the low frequencies.

The purpose of per-input GEQ / tone controls would be to modify overall tonality to listener's taste, and/or to fix deficiencies in the recording/source.

One of the many interesting quotes by dr. Floyd Toole on the subject (source):
(...) It is important for consumers to realize that it is not a crime to use tone controls. Instead, it is an intelligent and practical way to compensate for inevitable variations in recordings, i.e. to “revoice” the reproduction if and when necessary. At the present time no loudspeaker can sound perfectly balanced for all recordings.

So IMHO this is a very welcome feature addition!
 
Thanks for the quick response @WiiM Support!

So just to see if I got that correctly, in the new app+FW version we will have:
  • GEQ or PEQ configuration for each input
  • Another PEQ configuration for each output
  • Room Correction result will apply to a specific output PEQ
  • We will be able to enable and use input PEQ/GEQ configuration at the same time when output PEQ/RC configuration is also enabled
Is the above a correct summary?
Hi dominikz, team

Your summary is correct! Stay tuned for the Beta testing release - we look forward to your feedback soon!
 
Probably some stupid questions but with a new TV ordered I'm looking at a new 5.1 system and am trying to decide to go WIIM or "normal' AVR based system - so:
1. If I have an Amp pro to drive the fronts I assume I'll need another (or standard amp) to run the rears - if I want to use a Pro or Pro Plus I'll also need another amp?
2. Will an Amp pro provide 3.1 (with the virtual centre) on its own?
3. Will non WIIM A10 speakers work as rears and has anyone had success with any other link play kit?
Thanks
 
Probably some stupid questions but with a new TV ordered I'm looking at a new 5.1 system and am trying to decide to go WIIM or "normal' AVR based system - so:
1. If I have an Amp pro to drive the fronts I assume I'll need another (or standard amp) to run the rears - if I want to use a Pro or Pro Plus I'll also need another amp?
2. Will an Amp pro provide 3.1 (with the virtual centre) on its own?
3. Will non WIIM A10 speakers work as rears and has anyone had success with any other link play kit?
Thanks
1. Yes, you’d need another amp to drive the rears
2. No
3. No, just the WiiM devices identified here https://faq.wiimhome.com/en/support...ing-up-a-wiim-dolby-5-1-surround-sound-system

Tbh, I’d go for a “normal” AVR for TV use unless you already have the requisite WiiM devices/speakers
 
1. Yes, you’d need another amp to drive the rears
2. No
3. No, just the WiiM devices identified here https://faq.wiimhome.com/en/support...ing-up-a-wiim-dolby-5-1-surround-sound-system

Tbh, I’d go for a “normal” AVR for TV use unless you already have the requisite WiiM devices/speakers

I'm looking for a new AVR because I'm sick of HEOS myself.
I'd like to buy two WiiMAmp Pro's to create a 5.0 DD environment, is that the wrong option?
Are there other options out there?
 
I'm looking for a new AVR because I'm sick of HEOS myself.
I'd like to buy two WiiMAmp Pro's to create a 5.0 DD environment, is that the wrong option?
Are there other options out there?
Personally, if I were looking for an AVR, I’d buy an AVR due to the support for a wide range of video and audio codecs.

If I already owned an Ultra or Amp Pro, I’d consider adding WiiM’s Dolby digital feature for occasional watching of movies.

Another option might be to use an AVR and feed its rear output into a WiiM Pro (or even a Mini), and group that with a WiiM Amp (or Amp Pro) for the rear surround so you can get wireless connection to rear speakers and arguably get the best of both worlds. When not in use for the back speakers, the front Pro could feed into the AVR for stereo playback of all the music services it supports.
 
Personally, if I were looking for an AVR, I’d buy an AVR due to the support for a wide range of video and audio codecs.

If I already owned an Ultra or Amp Pro, I’d consider adding WiiM’s Dolby digital feature for occasional watching of movies.

Another option might be to use an AVR and feed its rear output into a WiiM Pro (or even a Mini), and group that with a WiiM Amp (or Amp Pro) for the rear surround so you can get wireless connection to rear speakers and arguably get the best of both worlds. When not in use for the back speakers, the front Pro could feed into the AVR for stereo playback of all the music services it supports.
That would be a great - is that an option?
 
thanks - an AVR is looking lke a more sensible option ATM
It depends. If you are an audiophile, nothing comes near the quality of the WiiM ultra, streaming 2 channel playback. The average AVR is not good sounding with music.

And another thought …. The decoding done in WiiM ultra to get 4.0 is done in their microprocessor. In an AVR , its done in an extra low price chip doing the decoding. This way , the Ultra may do the decoding in a better way than any AVR can = sounding better for 4.0 ?

We dont know ofcourse, but it would be interesting with SINAD measurements to compare for WiiM Ultra in surround mode, compared to an AVR in 4.0 mode.
 
That would be a great - is that an option?
Assuming your avr has rca outputs for the rear channels. I did similar years ago using a Rocketfish wireless rear speaker kit which connected a transmitter box to my AVR’s rear output and send that to a receiver box/amp which fed my rear speakers without having cables trail across the floor or under the carpet. Sharing audio between two WiiM units would accomplish the same as that did.
 
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