Ongoing Beta Beta Testing: Wireless Dolby 5.1 for WiiM Ultra

[Wiimer]

I think the question was if the RC will be associated with the output settings ad it should be.

Isn't that already accomplished with smart presets?

 

[hgo58]

Isn't that already accomplished with smart presets?

How?

I only see that if you always use Presets for changing output. And then you will now have to select both what RC to use and what EQ to use. That is not available.

As I see it a output will have to be associated with a RC profile just as a input is associated with an EQ profile.

 

[harkpabst]

Isn't that already accomplished with smart presets?

It's still just one combined EQ.

The main advantage of having this separated is that you can have one set of "Room EQs" (or headphone EQs) dealing with outer listening conditions and a completely different set of EQ settings to suit your taste or mood or the programme type you're listening to.

With current smart presets you still had to manually "merge" all possible combinations into one resulting EQ.

 

[dominikz]

Hi dominikz,

Your understanding is mostly correct, with one exception - both GEQ and PEQ are available for input sound customization.
Thank you again for your valuable insights!

Thanks for the quick response @WiiM Support!

So just to see if I got that correctly, in the new app+FW version we will have:

• GEQ or PEQ configuration for each input
• Another PEQ configuration for each output
• Room Correction result will apply to a specific output PEQ
• We will be able to enable and use input PEQ/GEQ configuration at the same time when output PEQ/RC configuration is also enabled

Is the above a correct summary?

 

[hgo58]

It's still just one combined EQ.

That is not how I understand it.

I read it as two stages. First the RC as a PEQ created by the measures and then either a PEQ or GEQ define manually as today.

 

[Wiimer]

Yes, I think understand.

You mean the PEQ per output feature will be added? I misunderstood because the team didn't say that explicitly.

I was under the impression that these functions would be associated with the presets and that 2 EQs would be selectable on the preset edit screen.

 

[harkpabst]

That is not how I understand it.

I read it as two stages. First the RC as a PEQ created by the measures and then either a PEQ or GEQ define manually as today.

I was explicitly replying to what is already available now with smart presets, contrasting this with the expected improvements.

So, yes, I understood it just like you did.

 

[Smartplug]

If rc was used and then use geq, isn’t that defy the logic of rc?

 

[EddNog]

If rc was used and then use geq, isn’t that defy the logic of rc?

Not if you use RC for completely flat/neutral response and then use the separate EQ for tone control. Not everyone wants to be limited to Harman or B&K curves.

-Ed

 

[dominikz]

If rc was used and then use geq, isn’t that defy the logic of rc?

Not really.

The purpose of RC is to tame/remove room resonances in the low frequencies.

The purpose of per-input GEQ / tone controls would be to modify overall tonality to listener's taste, and/or to fix deficiencies in the recording/source.

One of the many interesting quotes by dr. Floyd Toole on the subject (source):

(...) It is important for consumers to realize that it is not a crime to use tone controls. Instead, it is an intelligent and practical way to compensate for inevitable variations in recordings, i.e. to “revoice” the reproduction if and when necessary. At the present time no loudspeaker can sound perfectly balanced for all recordings.

So IMHO this is a very welcome feature addition!

 

[WiiM Support]

Thanks for the quick response @WiiM Support!

So just to see if I got that correctly, in the new app+FW version we will have:

• GEQ or PEQ configuration for each input
• Another PEQ configuration for each output
• Room Correction result will apply to a specific output PEQ
• We will be able to enable and use input PEQ/GEQ configuration at the same time when output PEQ/RC configuration is also enabled

Is the above a correct summary?

Hi dominikz, team

Your summary is correct! Stay tuned for the Beta testing release - we look forward to your feedback soon!