Browsing and organizing USB media library is very tedious

[Steve Woodhouse]

Within the first of those.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Within Rockabilly.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

That Rockin’ Bones is a 4 CD set.

Two of those compilations are effectively my own DIY playlists.

There’s a level of bespokeness here…I’m not saying it’s impossible by other methods. But it’s not as easy to create. Or tag. And not as pleasant to view.

 

[simbun]

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Don't you have any 70s/80s Christmas albums? Which folder are they in? With tags they could appear in both - without being duplicated

Things just took a turn!

Whilst technically all these could just be additional classifications held in tags, there are ragged hierarchies that won't be fun to navigate, or particularly logical.

How is your AlbumArtist branch so simple yet your compilation branch such a mess so complex?

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Don't you have any 70s/80s Christmas albums? Which folder are they in? With tags they could appear in both - without being duplicated

Things just took a turn!

Whilst technically all these could just be additional classifications held in tags, there are ragged hierarchies that won't be fun to navigate, or particularly logical.

How is your AlbumArtist branch so simple yet your compilation branch such a mess so complex?

I completely understand what you’re saying. I tried several approaches, and found that was the one that worked for me. Again, that’s the beauty of it, it’s your choice.

So, you’re right about Christmas tracks and duplicates. But if you have 5 Christmas compilations ripped, you’re just going to get duplicates however you tag things, unless you spend hours ‘pruning’.

Fortunately, I don’t have, and aren’t aware of any compilations which are purely ‘70s Christmas songs. If I did, it’d definitely go in the Christmas folder, probably not in the ‘70s folder…though if I had a Christmas Rock ‘n’ Roll compilation, that probably would go in both.

Now you’ve prompted me to conduct a little experiment. I’ve done a search and Brenda Lee’s Rockin’ Around the Christmas Tree already appears 5 times. If I bought a Rock ‘n’ Roll Christmas CD, and put it in the Christmas folder, that’s make 6. If I duplicated it in the Rock ‘n’ Roll folder, that’d be 7.

Which for me goes to show that worries about duplications ‘pollution’ your library are vastly overstated. There might be the odd person who’s comfortable with 6 duplicates, but whose life is ruined by 7, but they’re surely just that. Odd.

It really makes no material difference, and probably wouldn’t do unless you copied every rip twice.

EDIT: OOH! Just found this!

https://amzn.eu/d/0DbB3yG

 

[rccarguy]

Don't you have any 70s/80s Christmas albums? Which folder are they in? With tags they could appear in both - without being duplicated

Things just took a turn!

Whilst technically all these could just be additional classifications held in tags, there are ragged hierarchies that won't be fun to navigate, or particularly logical.

How is your AlbumArtist branch so simple yet your compilation branch such a mess so complex?

Don't waste your time, I spent enough time proving my points, funny ignores all the good points, saying well I don't want to do that. What, wants to actually wait 14 minutes to find all "christmas," compared to my one second, which his wouldn't find any christmas in tags, just his filename or folders .

Just being difficult to be different, long winded approach. Good luck having folder view to show this

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Don't waste your time, I spent enough time proving my points, funny ignores all the good points, saying well I don't want to do that. What, wants to actually wait 14 minutes to find all "christmas," compared to my one second, which his wouldn't find any christmas in tags, just his filename or folders .

Just being difficult to be different, long winded approach. Good luck having folder view to show this

How on earth does it take me 14 minutes to find one track?

It takes a second by searching.

 

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[simbun]

It takes a second by searching.

How and what are you "searching"?

I've been flogging this dead horse because I'm not sure you quite understand how it all works, not at all to prove a point. Maybe it's just a difference in our terminology.

 

[simbun]

Don't waste your time, I spent enough time proving my points, funny ignores all the good points, saying well I don't want to do that.

I think it comes down to a difference in our interpretation of "flexibility". Yes folder view allows you to put any old sh!t wherever you want, but how you find it again I don't know.

I guess it works for a single user with small collections, but it doesn't scale - which he doesn't need obviously.

 

[rccarguy]

How and what are you "searching"?

I've been flogging this dead horse because I'm not sure you quite understand how it all works, not at all to prove a point. Maybe it's just a difference in our terminology.

Yeah he can't search by folder view. I already told him it takes 14 minutes to find a track or folder in Windows Explorer. He cannot do a search., if it is fast then he's using a music database.In LMS it takes one second and it will find that searched name in other things like band, composer, something searching by folder WILL not find.

Playing by folder is fine for car and portable user, like having 128B on USB stick etc, but on a server with 300,000 tracks? Nah.

Also on mine I could have lossy and lossless release type tag, ie

Inxs branch
Kick . Release type 24bit
Kick . Release type 128kps OGG

I'll be using this method to have to libraries, but without mixing directories and files up, mine is sorted the others persons library is a complete mess.

That way will still be in that group, in a seperate phyical directory \music\ogg and music\flac but seen in music server as in the same artist branch. I wouldn't want to mix lossless and lossy into the same folder structure.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

How and what are you "searching"?

I've been flogging this dead horse because I'm not sure you quite understand how it all works, not at all to prove a point. Maybe it's just a difference in our terminology.

I think we must be at cross purposes, because I can’t think why you’re asking the question, it’s that obvious.

So you see the little ‘spyglass’ symbol here, top right, just to the left of the three dots.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Click on that, then type in the name of the song you’re looking for.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

That’s so obvious, I’m guessing we’re using similar language to talk about different things.

But that spyglass, that’s known as the ‘search’ icon. So that’s why I call it searching.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Yeah he can't search by folder view. I already told him it takes 14 minutes to find a track or folder in Windows Explorer. He cannot do a search., if it is fast then he's using a music database.In LMS it takes one second and it will find that searched name in other things like band, composer, something searching by folder WILL not find.

Playing by folder is fine for car and portable user, like having 128B on USB stick etc, but on a server with 300,000 tracks? Nah.

Also on mine I could have lossy and lossless release type tag, ie

Inxs branch
Kick . Release type 24bit
Kick . Release type 128kps OGG

I'll be using this method to have to libraries, but without mixing directories and files up, mine is sorted the others persons library is a complete mess.

That way will still be in that group, in a seperate phyical directory \music\ogg and music\flac but seen in music server as in the same artist branch. I wouldn't want to mix lossless and lossy into the same folder structure.

I don't even understand the concept of 'search by folder view'. Folder View is a...well, it's a view. It's a way of looking at and accessing your music library.

As I've already explained...I think this is the 102nd time, on the rare occasion I don't know where something is, I just search using the search function.

Pics in a mo.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

So this is Folder View in The Beatles folder.

 

[simbun]

I think we must be at cross purposes, because I can’t think why you’re asking the question, it’s that obvious.

So you see the little ‘spyglass’ symbol here, top right, just to the left of the three dots.

The example given was to find all Christmas songs, but I don't think he meant just those with Christmas in the album or song title.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Notice the spyglass icon is still in the top right.

Click on that and type in the name of the song you want.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Then click on ‘Tracks’.

 

[Steve Woodhouse]

Were you not aware that you could do that?