Home Music Share keeps skipping to next track

[Xidnpnlss]

Hello good people.

When using the Wiim iOS app to stream FLAC from my external hard drive it’s been skipping randomly to the next track. I’ve been trying to pay attention to anything going on on my phone or whatever to see if there’s something that’s triggering it, but it seems very random. I only occasionally use it to stream so can’t be sure if it started doing this after an app update

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

 

[Burnside]

No, I'm not using DLNA on the computer (those servers are listed under "Media Server" in the app). I'm trying to use SMB folder sharing ("Shared folder" in the app).

Any particular reason? I always see SMB as a last ditch solution when much better solutions like Minimserver are available.

Might it be a permissions issue at the file level?

 

[Zap Rekowski]

That component was abandoned years ago so I wouldn't recommend it to new users.

...why not? Do not allow Internet access (can be set under Server) and everything is OK. Just because it's a bit older doesn't mean it's bad. A very reliable and secure solution, even for Windows 11, and unlike MinimServer, without Java.

 

[simbun]

...why not?

Primarily because it's not supported, but I seem to remember issues with track numbering and album sorting (not a natural sort) too.
I use foobar but it's not really a user friendly tool, but I take your point about Java and MinimServer which is why I run my Windows instance in Sandboxie Plus.

 

[Zap Rekowski]

Primarily because it's not supported, but I seem to remember issues with track numbering and album sorting (not a natural sort) too.
I use foobar but it's not really a user friendly tool, but I take your point about Java and MinimServer which is why I run my Windows instance in Sandboxie Plus.

...I have no problems in this respect. What is really a bit poor, however, is the search function. It should just be a suggestion instead to the windows own programs. I mainly use MinimServer (still 0.8.5.2) on my QNAP NAS only in my own network, I prevent Internet access in the router settings

 

[simbun]

I mainly use MinimServer (still 0.8.5.2) on my QNAP NAS only in my own network, I prevent Internet access in the router settings

Given MinimServer relies on UPnP I don't understand how it could work across broadcast domains, unless QNAP has its own tools to do so.
I tend to use Tailscale for remote access, although I've just moved to an OpenSubsonic solution which has great offline functionality so I don't have the need so much now.

 

[Zap Rekowski]

OK, maybe my bad English I prevent access to the entire NAS by disabling internet access in the router as I don't need remote access. QNAP once had problems with a piece of firmware, which led to various hacker attacks for some users.

 

[ClaudeJazz]

Any particular reason? I always see SMB as a last ditch solution when much better solutions like Minimserver are available.

Might it be a permissions issue at the file level?

I'm using the same network user account on all devices, so normally the permissions should be the same.

The Wiim skips all the files as if they can be accessed, but are unplayable. The same files play on all other devices, over the same network share.

 

[simbun]

The Wiim skips all the files as if they can be accessed, but are unplayable. The same files play on all other devices, over the same network share.

Have you tried copying one of the skipped files to your phone to check that it plays from there (WHA > My Music > Local)?

EDIT: I'm not able to test JetAudio+ as it doesn't offer a trial, but one thing you should know is that WiiM doesn't index SMB shares, it only offers folder/filename browsing, so as has been suggested a server offers a much richer browsing experience.

 

[Zap Rekowski]

I'm using the same network user account on all devices, so normally the permissions should be the same.

The Wiim skips all the files as if they can be accessed, but are unplayable. The same files play on all other devices, over the same network share.

I wonder if there are authorization problems here and if the Windows firewall needs to be configured.
Just for information: I also use Symfonium on Android with SMB access to my Qnap NAS music library. FLACs and mp3s are played flawlessly on the Ultra, Pro and Mini.

 

[simbun]

I wonder if there are authorization problems here and if the Windows firewall needs to be configured.

I believe access is via the WiiM hardware (as opposed to WHA), so if there was an authentication/firewall issue I doubt you'd be able to browse it at all.

 

[Zap Rekowski]

As I understand it, an attempt is being made to access with the WHA via SMB. It is quite possible that the permissions are “you can look but not touch” (figuratively speaking, it's been years since I dealt with this )

 

[simbun]

As I understand it, an attempt is being made to access with the WHA via SMB. It is quite possible that the permissions are “you can look but not touch” (figuratively speaking, it's been years since I dealt with this )

So not firewall/authentication but filesystem permissions perhaps. I did wonder that initially, but given other apps work - with the same access - I wouldn't have thought that could be the case.

 

[Zap Rekowski]

Yes, that's right. Firewall blocks or lets through.

 

[ClaudeJazz]

As I understand it, an attempt is being made to access with the WHA via SMB. It is quite possible that the permissions are “you can look but not touch” (figuratively speaking, it's been years since I dealt with this )

Thanks. The file permissions are set to "Full control", and the access works with my Android devices using the same account.

 

[Zap Rekowski]

Maybe activated SMB1 in Windows during testing? Some applications react sensitively to this because SMB1 is not secure and deny access.

After right-clicking on the start button, select "Windows PowerShell (Administrator)" to start Powershell.

To deactivate SMB 1, enter the following command and confirm it with the Enter key: "Disable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName smb1protocol"
After deactivating SMB 1, the computer must be restarted.

See also:

How to detect, enable and disable SMBv1, SMBv2, and SMBv3 in Windows

Describes how to enable and disable the Server Message Block protocol (SMBv1, SMBv2, and SMBv3) in Windows client and server environments.

learn.microsoft.com

 

[ClaudeJazz]

No, SMB1 is not active.

 

[Zap Rekowski]

OK, these are the last things I can think of:

- Has the WiiM app been set up properly for access? Instructions:

Adding and Accessing SMB Shared Files in the WiiM App

TABLE OF CONTENTS Introduction to SMB (Samba) Benefits of Using SMB (Samba) with WiiM How to Add and Access SMB Shared Files in the WiiM App 1. Open the WiiM App 2. Add SMB Shared Files 3. Browse and Play Introduction to SMB (Samba)...

faq.wiimhome.com

- as discussed at the beginning: Is the correct user really entered in the WiiM app? It actually looks like user rights are missing here. Sometimes you have inadvertently set a tick or dot at the end of the user name without realizing it. If necessary, simply reset all entries in the WiiM app and fill it out again

- Finally, not absolutely necessary but nevertheless, I recommend installing the Windows 10 Firewall Control Free (also runs under WIN11) to see in real time or simplified if there are any restrictions. Here you can also monitor services and grant/deny access:

Windows 10 Firewall Control: Sphinx Software

Windows 10 Firewall Control: Single Installation License. Simple and exhaustive solution for applications network activity controlling and monitoring. Prevents undesired programs and Windows updates, informational incoming and outgoing leakage of applications running locally or remotely...

www.sphinx-soft.com

Good Luck!

 

[simbun]

Have you tried copying one of the skipped files to your phone to check that it plays from there (WHA > My Music > Local)?

@ClaudeJazz

Have you tried the above yet?

Alternatively, use the BubbleUPnP Android app (assuming JetAudio can't cast to the WiiM) to browse your share and play to WiiM. This will remove SMB from the equation (for WiiM) and check file compatibility.