I don't see a reason for that and I don't know what are you talking about. BTW, we are not mates, yet.
Issue with Distortion at Very Low Volume When Using WiiM Ultra with External DAC
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What exactly does that mean? Please define these words in physical terms. Have you made blind ABX tests?
Valentino
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A thought:
After resampling, is the signal level the same (< 0.15 dB difference)?
After resampling, is the signal level the same (< 0.15 dB difference)?
No, but I can hear the difference every time I switch , thats good enough for me .
I know my opinion is subjective .
This sound quality differences might however differ with other dacs .
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Funny how, while we keep requesting bells and wistles, there are priorities issues I'm not sure they are being addressed. Maybe the Ultra has already given what he can give in terms of sound quality? I really hope not.
Its the lack of SRC that makes the WiiMs sound so good in the first place . I have heard many expensive streamers that uses sample rate conversion on every source material , and they have all sounded inferior to the WiiM ( used as digital transport ) .
This is also Regas conclusion about best sound quality .
You get that meaty, natural sound from the instrument that are natural sounding in the soundstage . This sounds worse with any SRC. Thinner, harder and less natural.
As an amateur soundtechnician, doing recordings of acoustical instruments , I’m sorry to say that the same issues happens when recording and using SRC at mastering ( if needed ) .
The original sampling frequency always sounds the best to my ears . ( Best recording standard is 24 bit/44,1 kHz if you gonna play it with 44.1 kHz at home. )
And , if one uses SRC somewhere in the recording production, the sound quality can not be recovered later in the chain .
I have not found a streamer sounding clearly better as a transport than the Ultra , regardless of price .
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The basis of communication is the common understanding of the words used. If you yourself cannot define the words you are using then you should really stop using them.
If you hear a difference, then just say that you hear a difference. Thats good enough. Because resampling is supposed to be transaparent. Its irrelevant if the result is more or less natural, thinner or thicker. If its different, then its bad.
Are these more of those undefined words..?
There’s a problem , it never is.
Well, I wouldn't say that.
Valentino
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Thanks once more. Very educational. I really appreciate what you do for us.
Let me guess: You also belive that, all else being equal, a recodring in 96+kHz/32bits sounds better then 48kHz/24bits.
be careful...the bandwidth affects the "impulse".. ;-)
This requires other types of approaches ...this will not be true for this type of simple measurement...(like the impact of the interstage condo in BF etc...)(ps.. the best adc barely reaches 20 bits enob ;-) and a yes...observe the BP of 99,9% of microphones used in the world ;-) )
;-)
(but my theoretical point... 96% of what is listened to around the world, by "the world"... supporting lossy compressions well... that's not really the subject... we know that the SACD would have been more than enough, shame ,the subject could have been closed at the beginning of 2000..
and we understand that the simple connection made naturally is linked to the image...""the race for resolution""" ... while clearly not of the same nature... but hey it helps to sell in a world where for 10 dollars a month we have 97% of what exists... not the price of a CD...)
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No , I would say a 16 bit recording with 44.1 kHz sampling frequency and the same 16 bit 44.1 kHz at playback , sounds better than a 24 bit 96 kHz recording , sample rate converted at mastering to 44.1 kHz and played with 16 bit 44.1 kHz equipment.
I have tried this with both Audacity and logic as DAWs - same result. And I was really surprised.
I would say SRC is often more audible than the resolution difference between 16 bit and 24 bit.
The SRC distortion sound much worse than the thd+n measurement shows, because it also affect things like stereo image and timbre.
(That said, when I do 2 channel recordings nowadays I often use 24 bit 96 kHz with my Audientid14 and two Line audio om1, - and I skip the mastering process and do the playback at my home with 24 bit 96 KHz.
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