Possibility to apply both (room correction) PEQ and GEQ

[DamagedGoods]

I use the the room correction feature with a flat target curve. Sometimes I’d like a little bass lift or “loudness” when listening at low volume or a thin sounding recording.

It would be great having the possibility to apply any of the predefined (or custom) GEQ profiles on top of a saved auto correction EQ, instead of having to edit the saved PEQ which is a bit cumbersome.

 

[harkpabst]

Apparently, independent eq rc did not see the light of day of release in public. There’s no information on what’s going. Me and @slartibartfast been waiting on this feature. There are so many beta that’s currently out there. Dlna cast and independent peq rc been out for long time in beta.

We're not talking about independent EQ per channel for RC here, though.

This request is about separating RC (which might be done the same for both channels or individually) and EQ (which never needs to be individual per channel).

 

[DamagedGoods]

We're not talking about independent EQ per channel for RC here, though.

This request is about separating RC (which might be done the same for both channels or individually) and EQ (which never needs to be individual per channel).

Have you added a formal feature request for this? I will do it today, but the more who requests this the more likely it will be implemented I suppose.

 

[harkpabst]

Have you added a formal feature request for this? I will do it today, but the more who requests this the more likely it will be implemented I suppose.

No, I haven't.

But we're discussing all this in a feature request thread started by @DamagedGoods. So, by all means, please start by voting up his idea in the initial post (and don't forget to like):

Possibility to apply both (room correction) PEQ and GEQ

I use the the room correction feature with a flat target curve. Sometimes I’d like a little bass lift or “loudness” when listening at low volume or a thin sounding recording. It would be great having the possibility to apply any of the predefined (or custom) GEQ profiles on top of a saved auto...

forum.wiimhome.com

Depending on if you watch the forum on a desktop or mobile device, the upvote arrow is either to the right or below the posting.

 

[harkpabst]

PS:
This request should not just be for the WiiM Ultra but for all WiiM devices, which have the processing power to support it.

It might have had an even better home here:

General WiiM Home App & Device Feature Requests

A place to suggest your feature requests about the WiiM Home app and device

forum.wiimhome.com

 

[DamagedGoods]

No, I haven't.

But we're discussing all this in a feature request thread started by @DamagedGoods. So, by all means, please start by voting up his idea in the initial post (and don't forget to like):

I’m unfortunately not able to upvote my own requests

You’re right about I should have added the request in the general wiim home app section though!

 

[Deleted member 10021]

There simply was no need for any number of additional bands, if RC and EQ were separated.

Let RC do what it is intended for. Apply additional EQ (with it's full power, no further limits) apply whatever changes you need

This also greatly simplified the creation of your own EQ profiles. No need to copy over any RC results and start modifying from there. If you have to do a new RC (changed speakers, changed speaker positions, new furniture, whatever) there's no need to also chang your personal EQ settings. You just keep them and apply them on top of the new RC.

Thanks. I’ll have to dive a little deeper in the eq section.

 

[MGJ]

I agree with the OP and others, EQ should be available after the Room Correction PEQ has done it's job.

Room Correction should not be On or Off. When you decide you want to run RC you select it. RC then automatically sets "EQ" to off, RC runs and saves the results to the "Auto" file in the "PEQ" section and automatically selects it. The user then can tweak the "Auto" PEQ filters and save it as they wish. The user can also create custom PEQ or EQ files as we do now and select them instead.

The WiiM app selections could look like this:

 

[Audiohome]

Then it would also be nice if you can run the RC check (in the end of the RC procedure) separately without doing a correction run.
This really helps visualizing manual corrections to the resulting frequency response after tinkering with the RC or PEQ.

 

[Kapeed1]

I also want this feature. In other systems the room correction is saved as a base layer. And on top of that the different equalization schemes are applied (like Rock, Pop, Classical etc) as an additional layer over the base layer. We want the same behavior. When the mood or the music demands it, I would like to pump up the bass. When classical instruments are playing, I would want a flat curve. This is a no brainer feature that Wiim forgot to include

 

[WiiM Support]

I also want this feature. In other systems the room correction is saved as a base layer. And on top of that the different equalization schemes are applied (like Rock, Pop, Classical etc) as an additional layer over the base layer. We want the same behavior. When the mood or the music demands it, I would like to pump up the bass. When classical instruments are playing, I would want a flat curve. This is a no brainer feature that Wiim forgot to include

Hi Kapeed1, Team

This feature will be released in the next couple of weeks and is now in the final stage of our QA. Please stay tuned! Thank you for your continued patience and support.

 

[pjorgenunes]

If there was EQ independently of RC you could just correct room issues where they are most likely to happen (below the Schroedinger frequency) and use EQ to tayler the sound to your needs.

Certainly easier than taking measurements in funny poses.

This might be specially needed even for different inputs like tape input or phono for instance

And I agree this is (or at least was) in other brands like Lyngdorf room perfect. You have the Room Perfect itself and then one can apply what they call voice curves (which is nothing but eq). You can choose one from stock and can taylor them to your taste/needs.

 

[dominikz]

IMHO separate EQ and RC is a great idea, but I feel 10-band graphic EQ and per-channel PEQ are a bit overkill for the purpose of basic tone-shaping post RC.

What I'd really love to see is a third option that would be either a single "tone" control (basically a frequency response tilt that you can change from from "warm" to "bright") or the usual fixed bass and treble controls.

Those could be used to easily dial-in the amount of bass and overall system tonality to taste as needed and on the fly, after RC calibrates it to a relatively neutral baseline.

 

[harkpabst]

IMHO separate EQ and RC is a great idea, but I feel 10-band graphic EQ and per-channel PEQ are a bit overkill for the purpose of basic tone-shaping post RC.

You're probably right here. Applying GEQ on top of PEQ based room correction doesn't sound too silly to me.

But ...

What I'd really love to see is a third option that would be either a single "tone" control (basically a frequency response tilt that you can change from from "warm" to "bright") or the usual fixed bass and treble controls.

... nothing beats the good old tilt control on former Quad pre-amplifiers! So brilliantly clever, so incredibly useful! A tad warmer, a tad brighter, that's usually all it takes to make a lacking recording enjoyable. I wholeheartedly support this idea!

I know I'm repeating myself here but Lyngdorf got this 99.9% perfect (just missing a tilt control).

• Level 1: 8 band speaker EQ (separate for main speakers and subwoofers, of course)
  No speaker's frequency response is perfect (maybe with the exception of DSP controlled active speakers). Spinorama.org provides EQ recommendations for lots and lots of speakers, improving the preference score noticeably. You can rely on your own measurements too, of course. This level of EQ exists and makes sense completely independent of the source, the room, the mood your in or the quality of the programme material. This is the (optional) foundation.
• Level 2: RoomPerfect, the unique multi-band room correction system
  No matter if you did apply speaker EQ or not, RoomPerfect is one of Lyngdorf's core technologies. Even if WiiM only manage to achieve 50% of what it does we can consider ourselves blessed.
• Level 3: Voicings, the Swiss army knife of sound manipulation
  You can store dozens of them. For whatever you want them to do. Voicings can be selected whenever you feel the need to, and they can also be linked to specific inputs. Each voicing can store up to 8 bands of PEQ.
• Level 4: Bass and treble controls
  Yes, old school bass and treble controls. Almost. Except you can configure the center frequencies to your liking.

Each of these levels can be applied (or not) independently. Is that cool?

 

[Wiimer]

IMHO separate EQ and RC is a great idea, but I feel 10-band graphic EQ and per-channel PEQ are a bit overkill for the purpose of basic tone-shaping post RC.

What I'd really love to see is a third option that would be either a single "tone" control (basically a frequency response tilt that you can change from from "warm" to "bright") or the usual fixed bass and treble controls.

Those could be used to easily dial-in the amount of bass and overall system tonality to taste as needed and on the fly, after RC calibrates it to a relatively neutral baseline.

I see the 24 preset GEQ as a more modern and specific tone control

(That said, I have never used it...)

 

[F1 Fan]

Hi Kapeed1, Team

This feature will be released in the next couple of weeks and is now in the final stage of our QA. Please stay tuned! Thank you for your continued patience and support.

Great as this can be done with my Eversolo Play..