Squeezelite Squeezelite and LMS
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Thanks for the replies and pointers. I am not sure what people mean by communicate with lms and Chromebook and Linux. It's just odd because everything is happening on my end except no volume. As others have had issues with upnp plugins and volume, what are the default settings to know what that volume should be sufficient when using the web gui of lms?
I don’t think you will get it to work but ….
Start by putting at least one track onto the Chromebook and point LMS at the folder it is in and scan
Attempt to play that track with the volume in LMS set at a very low level and when you see the track counter moving then gradually increase the volume slider.
Which skin are you using? Default or have you installed Material plugin? The volume slider is on both but in different places.
Regular skin. The volume is all the way up but I know there have been issues elsewhere with the upnp plug in enabled vs turning it off since wiim integrated squeezelite into wiim in the last month or so.
I'll try a local file in a bit. But the track was about when streaming from radio paradise. Thanks!!!
I’m saying local file because if that doesn’t work Radio Paradise never will but there is a potential that you might get a local file to work but RP doesn’t.
Internet streams can be set to play direct (on the player itself) or Proxied (via the server) but this isn’t worth tinkering with if a local file doesn’t work.
Local file playback is the most basic mode.
The file should be a FLAC as that is the most common format.
Internet streams can be set to play direct (on the player itself) or Proxied (via the server) but this isn’t worth tinkering with if a local file doesn’t work.
Local file playback is the most basic mode.
The file should be a FLAC as that is the most common format.
Interesting. So the internet streams are actually coming thru the controlling device? For some reason I thought the controlling device just tells the wiim what stream to grab from the router whereas a file from the PC is different
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Got it. makes it even odder then that it can see my wiim can play streams from radio paradise and my other apps and show all of that information on the interface, but there's no music coming out of the wiim. that would seem to be the easy part since it can see everything else.
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In the case of LMS here, surely the stream comes from the cloud to the LMS server and then to its client I.e. the WiiM Squeezelite client? If you turn off the LMS server, the stream will die.
I've given up. Would be nice if this could work but the wiim home app does 95 percent of what LMS would do. Unless wiim somehow adds lms to the app proper with an interface that lets it handle getting the stream from the server on your PC to the wiim machine, I can't get it to work. It doesn't seem to recognize my wiim as a upnp device. It can only see it and control it to the point of turning off what is already playing from the wiim home app if I have the Chromecast plug in enabled. But it won't play the selected music on the lms web gui. Oh well!
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I think @d6jg would strongly disagree with that
There is a deprecated interface to LMS that allows it to be seen as an UPNP media server but it hasn't been supported for over ten years I believe..
Have you tried running some other native media server on your Chromebook (if such exists) ?
EDIT: See this link where it suggests that the MediaServer app might do the job and allow your Chromebook MediaServer instance to be accessed by a UPNP client/player like the WiiM Home app
How to Stream Your Media Collection from Your Chromebook
Learn how to turn your Chromebook into a media server. Stream music, movies, and more across your home network with our comprehensive guide.
chromeready.com
I have not. For what's it's worth you can stream almost any audio to the wiim from the Chromebook as soon also doubles as a Chromecast and can do that up to 96k. It just can't get sound from the wiim GUI.I think @d6jg would strongly disagree with that
There is a deprecated interface to LMS that allows it to be seen as UPNP, media server but it hasn't been supported for over ten years I believe..
Have you tried running some other native media server on your Chromebook (if such exists) ?
I obviously don't know what I am totally talking about here, but it would be nice if wiim had an lms button or what have you on it's phone app to let you log into your my squeezebox there the same as you can for the other services it's built into the app but maybe easier said than done
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That MediaServer app might allow that...
Generally a bad idea I'd say given it would take a lot of development and stands on its head what many LMS users do. Also, it's a bit redundant as WiiM have their squeezelite client - it's just that your LMS platform doesn't seem to support it.
castalla
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I have a wiim pro. LMS is on a Pi4 - using the material skin for control. LMS sees the Wiim as a squeezelite player (no need for any bridges). Radio Paradise plays with variable volume control.
I agree with others that the likely culprit is trying to run LMS on chromebook.
I agree with others that the likely culprit is trying to run LMS on chromebook.
Super dumb question when you say client you mean in the back end as a way to connect it or an actual interface? I still think I just have an incorrect setting on my lms GUI interface thru the Firefox browser but no clue what it should be or currently is.
castalla
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You have introduced so many variables that it's impossible to know just what your setup is!
On which device have you actually installed the LMS software? (You just introduced a mention of my squeezebox - that is not a LMS server but an online route to access media streams.)
On which device have you actually installed the LMS software? (You just introduced a mention of my squeezebox - that is not a LMS server but an online route to access media streams.)
The lms software is installed on my Chromebook using Linux.
And that is the problem. No one has reported that it works consistently enough to make it a viable option particulalry if you are a complete newbie to LMS.
Run LMS on a Pi - picoreplayer.org, almost any mainstream Linux on native hardware, Windows 10 or 11, on a NAS in Docker, Mac (although MacOS can be tricky), any number of SBCs but not on ChromeOS.
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The WiiM App does about 5% of what LMS does. The playlist management for example is light years ahead.
Mike.
You can set the LMS player to run internet streams either direct or proxied. Proxied means through the server. There are advantages and disadvantages to each. When you sync 2 or more LMS players everthing becomes proxied in order to make the sync (and any necessary transcoding) work.
LMS is server centric, it controls the players whereas in UPnP you have a separate controller interfacing betwenn the server and player.
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