The General Subwoofer Thread

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Rather than hijack the other subwoofer thread (more than I already have), I figured it might be fun to start another one that goes into more detail on how folks are using subs instead of just what subs they’re using. There are some folks in there who have some very interesting setups, in addition to folks who are still considering a sub to their rigs. And since a lot of those setups are using WiiM’s bass management capabilities in the Home app, will, I thought it just makes sense.

I just added a SVS SB-1000 Pro, replacing an aging but still very functional JBL PSW1000. I’m still tweaking, as I only connected it up this morning, so I’ll have more to follow in another day or two. Or more. But s far I’m really liking what I’m hearing.

First thing I noticed before anything else, the old JBL - a 100w ported box with a 10” driver - is actually louder than this new SVS, a 325w 12” in a sealed box. I expected there’d be close, but I didn’t expect that result. However, with levels adjusted, the SVS is plenty loud enough at max volume and 0 gain in the Home app’s sub settings. I ran through the sub/speaker sync and then room correction a couple of times, then checked it again using the HouseCurve app. There’s been a bit of mild tweaking throughout the day, but I’m mostly sticking with what RC built. So, while the JBL is louder, it’s in a narrower range. When they say sealed box subs have a more gradual roll-off, they’re not kidding. This little unit puts it out smooth and even throughout its whole range. Color me impressed.

And whoever said a sealed box sub can’t rattle the house off its foundation, I got another thing for ya. I’m listening to some older Dead Can Dance, and one of the tracks (didn’t catch which one) hit a sustained bass note that damn near shook me off the couch. It was deeper and cleaner than anything I’d ever heard out of the JBL. And now Apple Music just threw on something from Rajna by Black Tears (who I’d never heard before), and oh my goodness, gotta hold onto my hat. And the amp volume is only at 33. :eek:

Please feel free to share your sub stories!
 
Rather than hijack the other subwoofer thread (more than I already have), I figured it might be fun to start another one that goes into more detail on how folks are using subs instead of just what subs they’re using. There are some folks in there who have some very interesting setups, in addition to folks who are still considering a sub to their rigs. And since a lot of those setups are using WiiM’s bass management capabilities in the Home app, will, I thought it just makes sense.

I just added a SVS SB-1000 Pro, replacing an aging but still very functional JBL PSW1000. I’m still tweaking, as I only connected it up this morning, so I’ll have more to follow in another day or two. Or more. But s far I’m really liking what I’m hearing.

First thing I noticed before anything else, the old JBL - a 100w ported box with a 10” driver - is actually louder than this new SVS, a 325w 12” in a sealed box. I expected there’d be close, but I didn’t expect that result. However, with levels adjusted, the SVS is plenty loud enough at max volume and 0 gain in the Home app’s sub settings. I ran through the sub/speaker sync and then room correction a couple of times, then checked it again using the HouseCurve app. There’s been a bit of mild tweaking throughout the day, but I’m mostly sticking with what RC built. So, while the JBL is louder, it’s in a narrower range. When they say sealed box subs have a more gradual roll-off, they’re not kidding. This little unit puts it out smooth and even throughout its whole range. Color me impressed.

And whoever said a sealed box sub can’t rattle the house off its foundation, I got another thing for ya. I’m listening to some older Dead Can Dance, and one of the tracks (didn’t catch which one) hit a sustained bass note that damn near shook me off the couch. It was deeper and cleaner than anything I’d ever heard out of the JBL. And now Apple Music just threw on something from Rajna by Black Tears (who I’d never heard before), and oh my goodness, gotta hold onto my hat. And the amp volume is only at 33. :eek:

Please feel free to share your sub stories!
Can you link the other thread? I can't seem to find another dedicated subwoofer thread, though I'm not used to these forums anyway. I'll post my sub story in a sec
 
The subwoofer I use is the very device that got me interested in audio back somewhere around 2012 when I was a kid. My grandpa had an original Bose Cinemate system, which is about the equivalent of a good modern Bose soundbar in audio quality (so less than some of the cheapest proper bookshelf speakers), and when he "upgraded" to a cheap Sony 5.1 system, he gave it to my dad. My parents are normal people who don't care about audio, just that they can hear the words in movies and music, but I LOVED listening to music since before I can remember. My mom has pictures of me as a toddler (who hardly sat still) sitting still listening intently to my grandpa's radio, his vinyl player, or people playing instruments live. So, I naturally was curious and set up the little system in my room that I shared with my brother and hooked it up to our sony dvd player, placed a Beach Boys CD in, and sat in wonder listening to it. I then watched my favorite movie at the time: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. It was the first time I had heard proper bass and proper stereo separation outside the movie theater, and I was hooked for life.

Fast forward to today, I'm still in college and can't afford much, but I've got the Neumi BS5P (2022 version) and I recently got a WIIM ultra for its eq, bass management, excellent DAC, streaming, hdmi cec, and other stuff. I'm no longer using the little satellite speakers of the Bose system, but I'm using the subwoofer with the sub out crossover from the WIIM (rca splitter to both L and R input because only connecting one had hum in the Bose for some reason) and the whole system sounds fantastic. The BS5P are pretty accurate down to 100Hz, and I've got them eq'd fairly flat with the WIIM, which happens to be my taste, and though the Bose sub and my room aren't accurate at all, it sounds so good to my tastes that I don't have the desire to upgrade (yet, lol). I'm not using the auto room correction because I don't have a measurement mic, and when it uses my phone mic, it sounds terrible (phone mic limitation, not wiim). Instead, I eq'd the speakers according to the measurement recommendation on Erin's Audio Corner, and it's a huge improvement, pretty much got it in line with my taste, which I wasn't expecting tbh.
 
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Can you link the other thread? I can't seem to find another dedicated subwoofer thread, though I'm not used to these forums anyway. I'll post my sub story in a sec
Here you go!

Oops - beat me to it! :sleep:
 
Just tried a Bass Mekanik track from the sub demo list, and holy crap - my whole house was shaking. Not my thing, but man I’m now officially amazed at what this little sub can do! It may not be as loud as the JBL, but it’s cleaner and goes noticeably deeper; but most importantly, it’s loud enough for this amp and speakers. For most *normal* listening, you almost don’t know it’s there until you shut it off and hear what the mains aren’t handling well - or at all. But for bass-heavy stuff, you most definitely know it’s there.

Bottom line, I am absolutely thrilled with the SB1000 Pro. For anybody looking for a reasonably priced sub that pairs extremely well with any WiiM amp and decent speakers, I highly recommend giving it a look. If you’re pushing more than 100w per channel, you’ll want something bigger - a ported box, or just a lot more power output in the sub. But for 100w mains, this little box is awesome.
 
Just tried a Bass Mekanik track from the sub demo list, and holy crap - my whole house was shaking. Not my thing, but man I’m now officially amazed at what this little sub can do! It may not be as loud as the JBL, but it’s cleaner and goes noticeably deeper; but most importantly, it’s loud enough for this amp and speakers. For most *normal* listening, you almost don’t know it’s there until you shut it off and hear what the mains aren’t handling well - or at all. But for bass-heavy stuff, you most definitely know it’s there.

Bottom line, I am absolutely thrilled with the SB1000 Pro. For anybody looking for a reasonably priced sub that pairs extremely well with any WiiM amp and decent speakers, I highly recommend giving it a look. If you’re pushing more than 100w per channel, you’ll want something bigger - a ported box, or just a lot more power output in the sub. But for 100w mains, this little box is awesome.
Like I said, great sub you got there…even if I might be a bit biased. 😉

-Ed
 
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