What external DAC to improve the Ultra?

[Smartplug]

I’ve owned many denon and Yamaha products. Which particular to which particular models are you referring?

Don’t tell me they sound same even untrained ear can hear their sonic sound signature.

 

[timfrommass]

Don’t tell me they sound same even untrained ear can hear their sonic sound signature.

What products are we talking about?

 

[Smartplug]

What products are we talking about?

AVR

 

[timfrommass]

AVR

When did I ever say 2 AVRs sounded the same?

 

[Smartplug]

When did I ever say 2 AVRs sounded the same?

I was mentioning both brand on this conversation

 

[Smartplug]

When did I ever say 2 AVRs sounded the same?

Can you tell the sound signature of akm and ess?

 

[timfrommass]

I was mentioning both brand on this conversation

Maybe I should repeat my question. When did I say that 2 AVRs would sound the same?

 

[timfrommass]

Can you tell the sound signature of akm and ess?

When properly executed they don’t have one

 

[Smartplug]

When properly executed they don’t have one

This tells me your ear is lacking in structure of hearing things. They surely do you can google this subjective reviews from people who owned both. I have 3 akm and 3 ess blind folded 50 times zero error I can guess which one.

 

[timfrommass]

This tells me your ear is lacking in structure of hearing things. They surely do you can google this subjective reviews from people who owned both. I have 3 akm and 3 ess blind folded 50 times zero error I can guess which one.

People think they can hear all kinds of things. But when challenged to demonstrate this in a controlled blind testing environment it never plays out. I don’t know what else to tell you. Continue believing in things that don’t exist. It’s certainly your right

 

[Smartplug]

People think they can hear all kinds of things. But when challenged to demonstrate this in a controlled blind testing environment it never plays out. I don’t know what else to tell you. Continue believing in things that don’t exist. It’s certainly your right

I’m not surprised why you talk like that it could possibly that your ear is not great and arguing there’s no such different. Do you think cheap audio man and Andrew Robinson subjective review are not relevant because they should be no sound difference? How do you explain blind folded 50 times zero error?

 

[timfrommass]

I’m not surprised why you talk like that it could possibly that your ear is not great and arguing there’s no such different. Do you think cheap audio man and Andrew Robinson subjective review are not relevant because they should be no sound difference? How do you explain blind folded 50 times zero error?

How do I explain it? It didn’t happen. Under a controlled double blind test with volumes matched I could give you 2 dacs that don’t even measure close and you wouldn’t be able to identify them correctly 50/50.

Make up a better story if you want to fib to prove a point. Tell me you’re 6’10 I might believe you. Tell me you’re 8’ tall and I know you’re not telling the truth.

 

[Smartplug]

How do I explain it? It didn’t happen. Under a controlled double blind test with volumes matched I could give you 2 dacs that don’t even measure close and you wouldn’t be able to identify them correctly 50/50.

Make up a better story if you want to fib to prove a point. Tell me you’re 6’10 I might believe you. Tell me you’re 8’ tall and I know you’re not telling the truth.

You believe on controlled environment yet you don’t want to admit you have defective ear that there’s no difference. Don’t blame us who can hear and you don’t.

 

[timfrommass]

You believe on controlled environment yet you don’t want to admit you have defective ear that there’s no difference. Don’t blame us who can hear and you don’t.

This has nothing to do with me. You’re the one over there just making stuff up to try and prove a point on the internet.

Peace out, this discussion just went completely pointless.

 

[Smartplug]

This has nothing to do with me. You’re the one over there just making stuff up to try and prove a point on the internet.

Peace out, this discussion just went completely pointless.

I’m not making this up in fact you say things that you say did not happen. Do you know me? Stop talking things you can’t prove that did not happen. You just don’t want to admit you’re one of the few people who can’t tell difference because your defective hearing. Andrew and Randy can tell difference between dacs because they have good hearing. Otherwise they won’t be subjective reviews.

 

[timfrommass]

I’m not making this up in fact you say things that you say did not happen. Do you know me? Stop talking things you can’t prove that did not happen. You just don’t want to admit you’re one of the few people who can’t tell difference because your defective hearing. Andrew and Randy can tell difference between dacs because they have good hearing. Otherwise they won’t be subjective reviews.

Well you can’t prove you did do it so I guess we’re at a stalemate.

Peace

 

[Smartplug]

Well you can’t prove you did do it so I guess we’re at a stalemate.

Peace

What country do you live? We can do blind folded to prove my point.

 

[timfrommass]

What country do you live? We can do blind folded to prove my point.

Just take a video of you doing it. Shouldn’t be hard. I expect to see it by Sunday, I’m sure you have a free weekend.

 

[Smartplug]

Just take a video of you doing it. Shouldn’t be hard. I expect to see it by Sunday, I’m sure you have a free weekend.

I don’t want video I want to settle this face to face.

 

[timfrommass]

I don’t want video I want to settle this face to face.

lol