AutospyBill
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Ongoing Beta Beta Test: DLNA Cast
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I recently jumped on the beta band wagon for DLNA Cast and Qobuz Connect.
I have a WiiM Pro Plus FWIW.
I’ve been testing the DLNA cast to my paired Sonos Fives (latest version). It shows both as singular speakers, but I chose one in particular I get stereo playback.
I’ve hooked up my Auidolab 8300CDQ to the WPP via RCA and optical. I’ve got my TT hooked up to the 8300CDQ. Playing CD and vinyl to my Sonos Fives has been fun.
Critiques;
1) need to get paired Sonos devices showing as such
2) the delay options need looking at. 0ms, 1000ms and 2000ms. Not good. A manual setting is needed me thinks. Or the minimum to be 100ms.
3) combine the Qobuz Connect and DLNA cast betas. I have numerous DLNA compliant renders I wish to test.
Issues, cannot say I’ve had one.
I have a WiiM Pro Plus FWIW.
I’ve been testing the DLNA cast to my paired Sonos Fives (latest version). It shows both as singular speakers, but I chose one in particular I get stereo playback.
I’ve hooked up my Auidolab 8300CDQ to the WPP via RCA and optical. I’ve got my TT hooked up to the 8300CDQ. Playing CD and vinyl to my Sonos Fives has been fun.
Critiques;
1) need to get paired Sonos devices showing as such
2) the delay options need looking at. 0ms, 1000ms and 2000ms. Not good. A manual setting is needed me thinks. Or the minimum to be 100ms.
3) combine the Qobuz Connect and DLNA cast betas. I have numerous DLNA compliant renders I wish to test.
Issues, cannot say I’ve had one.
Can’t see that being possible - Sonos groups are a Sonos construct not exposed externally. That’ll probably also be why your stereo playback happens in one but not the other as Sonos probably designated one as the main receiver for the stream.
You can easily switch between betas now in the WiiM home app - merging two betas could potentially impact both negatively and might not be available for the WiiM devices each currently support.
Makes sense that one is the designated receiver.
Amazon’s Music (using presumably a version of UPNP or DLNA) shows them as a singular entity. As does Roon
(but using Sonos Streaming protocol).Yep, been doing this. At some point they’re surely going to get combined. @WiiM Team any comment on this.
Thanks @Burnside
Makes sense that one is the designated receiver.
Amazon’s Music (using presumably a version of UPNP or DLNA) shows them as a singular entity. As does Roon
Amazon music doesn’t use UPNP nor DLNA, just its own proprietary AlexaCast protocol or ChromeCast (or Bluetooth). If the Amazon Music app is seeing your Sonos stereo pair as one entity, I’d guess you might have the Sonos Alexa skill enabled and it might have better integration with the Amazon Music app over AlexaCast. I don’t think Sonos support Chromecast or Chromecast stereo pairs.
I’d guess when they’re no longer in beta
Best raising a ticket if you want a direct response from WiiM development, they only infrequently pop in here.
Running dnla beta 4.8.705360 on a Wiim pro.
Feels pretty solid casting to various Sonos devices including: Connect Amp, Play Bar, Sonos 3, Sonos 1, from a variety of sources.
One observation is that if casting to two unlinked devices they are out of synch - not a big issue - perhaps a different delay per device would help?
Anyway thanks, it’s great to be able to use Wiim to control all the Sonos devices!
Feels pretty solid casting to various Sonos devices including: Connect Amp, Play Bar, Sonos 3, Sonos 1, from a variety of sources.
One observation is that if casting to two unlinked devices they are out of synch - not a big issue - perhaps a different delay per device would help?
Anyway thanks, it’s great to be able to use Wiim to control all the Sonos devices!
Whilst WiiM might be making some effort to keep the streams aligned (likely just delaying the start of the stream until all endpoints are ready) synchronisation is not the aim of DLNA Cast, as DLNA has no provision for it.
When casting to a Sonos group, WiiM casts to the master and Sonos is responsible for the synchronisation.
I use DLNA to my Sonos system using JRiver and cast to one Sonos speaker and then use the Sonos app to group speakers. Sonos keeps them in sync. Since Sonos has their own syncing method, I doubt Wiim will be able to sync them directly. They will drift over time. Since I only change my speaker groupings occasionally it is not a big deal. Speaker grouping is pretty much the only thing I use the Sonos app for.
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Im casting from my windows 10 PC to my wiim Pro & this 4.8.705360 (beta),is quicker & more stable than my wiim's ever been.
This is the first time beta testing anything,previously I was losing connection a lot & I was missing loads of files from my media server.
This beta version is rock solid for me.
The wiim can see find & play over 2TB of flac files.
Im really pleased I've been testing for a couple of days now none stop & it's been flawless!
This is the first time beta testing anything,previously I was losing connection a lot & I was missing loads of files from my media server.
This beta version is rock solid for me.
The wiim can see find & play over 2TB of flac files.
Im really pleased I've been testing for a couple of days now none stop & it's been flawless!
This beta is for casting from your WiiM Pro to a non-WiiM DLNA renderer e.g. Sonos/HEOS/CA. It sounds like you're just casting to your WiiM using DLNA which has always been possible.
What software are you using on Windows?
onek00lj4y
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Thank you,I realised that while reading some threads.
I'm just using the wiim home pc app, I didn't realise you could cast to another non wiim device that's amazing.Then why is this beta version better than my original firmware, should I opt out then & detele my post.im sorry thanks for the heads up!
That's the theory at least, but the current implementation only works reliably with a select few speakers i.e. Sonos.
Even though it's just an additional Audio Output, it you have no need for it then it's probably best to leave the beta.
onek00lj4y
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Will do thanks, happy listening too you
Although it’s great you can opt in and then revert back out of the beta through a simple process, if you find you can’t live with it!Will do thanks, happy listening too you
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This beta seems to have gone really quiet again, I wonder if we will ever get a fully working version that works with all third party manufacturers DLNA compatible speakers. 
The longest beta ever released. It must be very difficult why up to now still in beta.This beta seems to have gone really quiet again, I wonder if we will ever get a fully working version that works with all third party manufacturers DLNA compatible speakers.
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