Ongoing Beta Beta Test: DLNA Cast

[AutospyBill]

Have you raised a ticket to provide feedback to Wiim?

Yes, I have

 

[menzies]

I recently jumped on the beta band wagon for DLNA Cast and Qobuz Connect.

I have a WiiM Pro Plus FWIW.

I’ve been testing the DLNA cast to my paired Sonos Fives (latest version). It shows both as singular speakers, but I chose one in particular I get stereo playback.

I’ve hooked up my Auidolab 8300CDQ to the WPP via RCA and optical. I’ve got my TT hooked up to the 8300CDQ. Playing CD and vinyl to my Sonos Fives has been fun.

Critiques;

1) need to get paired Sonos devices showing as such

2) the delay options need looking at. 0ms, 1000ms and 2000ms. Not good. A manual setting is needed me thinks. Or the minimum to be 100ms.

3) combine the Qobuz Connect and DLNA cast betas. I have numerous DLNA compliant renders I wish to test.

Issues, cannot say I’ve had one.

 

[Burnside]

I recently jumped on the beta band wagon for DLNA Cast and Qobuz Connect.

I have a WiiM Pro Plus FWIW.

I’ve been testing the DLNA cast to my paired Sonos Fives (latest version). It shows both as singular speakers, but I chose one in particular I get stereo playback.

I’ve hooked up my Auidolab 8300CDQ to the WPP via RCA and optical. I’ve got my TT hooked up to the 8300CDQ. Playing CD and vinyl to my Sonos Fives has been fun.

Critiques;

1) need to get paired Sonos devices showing as such

Can’t see that being possible - Sonos groups are a Sonos construct not exposed externally. That’ll probably also be why your stereo playback happens in one but not the other as Sonos probably designated one as the main receiver for the stream.

2) the delay options need looking at. 0ms, 1000ms and 2000ms. Not good. A manual setting is needed me thinks. Or the minimum to be 100ms.

3) combine the Qobuz Connect and DLNA cast betas. I have numerous DLNA compliant renders I wish to test.

You can easily switch between betas now in the WiiM home app - merging two betas could potentially impact both negatively and might not be available for the WiiM devices each currently support.

 

[menzies]

Can’t see that being possible - Sonos groups are a Sonos construct not exposed externally. That’ll probably also be why your stereo playback happens in one but not the other as Sonos probably designated one as the main receiver for the stream.

Makes sense that one is the designated receiver.

Amazon’s Music (using presumably a version of UPNP or DLNA) shows them as a singular entity. As does Roon (but using Sonos Streaming protocol).

You can easily switch between betas now in the WiiM home app

Yep, been doing this. At some point they’re surely going to get combined. @WiiM Team any comment on this.

Thanks @Burnside

 

[Burnside]

Makes sense that one is the designated receiver.

Amazon’s Music (using presumably a version of UPNP or DLNA) shows them as a singular entity. As does Roon (but using Sonos Streaming protocol).

Amazon music doesn’t use UPNP nor DLNA, just its own proprietary AlexaCast protocol or ChromeCast (or Bluetooth). If the Amazon Music app is seeing your Sonos stereo pair as one entity, I’d guess you might have the Sonos Alexa skill enabled and it might have better integration with the Amazon Music app over AlexaCast. I don’t think Sonos support Chromecast or Chromecast stereo pairs.

Yep, been doing this. At some point they’re surely going to get combined.

I’d guess when they’re no longer in beta

@WiiM Team any comment on this.

Best raising a ticket if you want a direct response from WiiM development, they only infrequently pop in here.

 

[jawdrops]

Running dnla beta 4.8.705360 on a Wiim pro.
Feels pretty solid casting to various Sonos devices including: Connect Amp, Play Bar, Sonos 3, Sonos 1, from a variety of sources.

One observation is that if casting to two unlinked devices they are out of synch - not a big issue - perhaps a different delay per device would help?

Anyway thanks, it’s great to be able to use Wiim to control all the Sonos devices!

 

[simbun]

One observation is that if casting to two unlinked devices they are out of synch - not a big issue - perhaps a different delay per device would help?

Whilst WiiM might be making some effort to keep the streams aligned (likely just delaying the start of the stream until all endpoints are ready) synchronisation is not the aim of DLNA Cast, as DLNA has no provision for it.

When casting to a Sonos group, WiiM casts to the master and Sonos is responsible for the synchronisation.

 

[dtc]

Running dnla beta 4.8.705360 on a Wiim pro.
Feels pretty solid casting to various Sonos devices including: Connect Amp, Play Bar, Sonos 3, Sonos 1, from a variety of sources.

One observation is that if casting to two unlinked devices they are out of synch - not a big issue - perhaps a different delay per device would help?

Anyway thanks, it’s great to be able to use Wiim to control all the Sonos devices!

I use DLNA to my Sonos system using JRiver and cast to one Sonos speaker and then use the Sonos app to group speakers. Sonos keeps them in sync. Since Sonos has their own syncing method, I doubt Wiim will be able to sync them directly. They will drift over time. Since I only change my speaker groupings occasionally it is not a big deal. Speaker grouping is pretty much the only thing I use the Sonos app for.

 

[jawdrops]

I use DLNA to my Sonos system using JRiver and cast to one Sonos speaker and then use the Sonos app to group speakers. Sonos keeps them in sync. Since Sonos has their own syncing method, I doubt Wiim will be able to sync them directly. They will drift over time. Since I only change my speaker groupings occasionally it is not a big deal. Speaker grouping is pretty much the only thing I use the Sonos app for.

Good point, thanks - now using Sonos for grouping for the synchronisation- casting from Wiim via DLNA works well with this.