Room Correction... I like it!

[ginger_ninja]

No sub, just the speakers? If it's just the speakers there isn't anything to tweak beforehand, except for the WiiM room correction settings.

WiiM RC offers three different target curves, Flat, Harman and B&K. It looks like you selected the flat curve. Try running RC again, but with one of the other target curves, one at a time. Just see what suits you best.

Positive correction can potentially be dangerous if the processor tries to fill holes in the frequency response, which are not correctable, because they are caused by room modes and resulting cancellation. I would have hoped that the most recent implementation of WiiM RC would attempt to detect these cases, but taking a closer look at your measurements this night not be the case (or at least not 100% reliably).

Search for those frequencies where a positive gain is applied by room EQ, but the resulting curve isn't any higher then the measured curve. This might be a problem with the 96 Hz, indeed. Did you take a screenshot of the final assessment,.too?

Generally speaking I see nothing wrong with positive gain corrections.

Well, I will have a sub on the way at some point. Just 2.0 for now

 

[rccarguy]

I think once you’re accustomed to bass and mid bump and rc flatten those would result in tin sound. Flat response you loose bass thump just flat bass.

nah once you hear my AT300 auto EQ it sounds baadd..heard better speakers bargain stores. Disabled it. Probably too aggressive auto EQ

manual entry is probably better but no one has given me recommended settings, so given up with the REW thing. Maybe get a Wiim and see how that does the auto EQ, I have two sets of speakers (one active at a time) so presets for each would come in handy.

 

[Smartplug]

It sounded ok but I switched to another album & it sounded terrible. Tinny with zero bass. My room is 10' x 12', thick carpets, tweeters at ear level. Is it worth me running the PEQ again? Any settings to tweak at all before running it? based on another post, I set to to a flat curve, 40 to 4000hz, max gain 9. No idea what any of that means


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What curve did you use? Try bk or haman. If you use flat you definitely get flat bass.

 

[Wiimer]

Maybe get a Wiim and see how that does the auto EQ,

You didn't buy it yet?

 

[ginger_ninja]

What curve did you use? Try bk or haman. If you use flat you definitely get flat bass.

I'll give that a go

 

[keiron99]

I have been playing around with the room correction and really do not have a clue what I'm doing! The information provided by Wiim on room correction and EQ isn't very thorough (what is PK? What is Q?). Has anyone found any good Youtube tutorials on this?

One other question: I ran RC, but I am not sure it is actually "activated". By which I mean, on my app, my device settings show EQ is set to Auto. But when I click on Room Correction, it takes me to the screen that starts the whole process again. How do I know that room correction is active? (Is that what "Auto" means under EQ?)

 

[Smartplug]

I have been playing around with the room correction and really do not have a clue what I'm doing! The information provided by Wiim on room correction and EQ isn't very thorough (what is PK? What is Q?). Has anyone found any good Youtube tutorials on this?

One other question: I ran RC, but I am not sure it is actually "activated". By which I mean, on my app, my device settings show EQ is set to Auto. But when I click on Room Correction, it takes me to the screen that starts the whole process again. How do I know that room correction is active? (Is that what "Auto" means under EQ?)

Don’t pay too much attention on technical specs, just run rc on 3 different curve and choose which sounds best for you. Most users just want to point and click and let the software does its work.

 

[harkpabst]

I have been playing around with the room correction and really do not have a clue what I'm doing! The information provided by Wiim on room correction and EQ isn't very thorough (what is PK? What is Q?). Has anyone found any good Youtube tutorials on this?

Very short version: If you don't know what you're doing, just start with the default settings. They are defaults for a reason.

One other question: I ran RC, but I am not sure it is actually "activated". By which I mean, on my app, my device settings show EQ is set to Auto. But when I click on Room Correction, it takes me to the screen that starts the whole process again. How do I know that room correction is active? (Is that what "Auto" means under EQ?)

You got it exactly right. You can save multiple PEQ filter settings, but Auto is the name of the filter setting that's created by the room correction process.

 

[steadyshot]

Did they announce any further improvements for RC?

Mainly

1.automatic independent speaker RC
2. Use of reductive only room correction algorithm
3. Efficient use of filters by using shelve filters instead of many PK

 

[Smartplug]

Many users using a sub would say that rc made their sub sounds flat and overall sound tin. I would try to disable the sub correction. This will allow you to retain bass that you can feel as well as hear. Wiim have many flexibility because every system and personal taste is different. In my case, I like rc without making subwoofer calibration. Also don’t forget after you run rc to run auto timing. Changing the crossover also change the timing.

 

[Smartplug]

Did they announce any further improvements for RC?

Mainly

1.automatic independent speaker RC
2. Use of reductive only room correction algorithm
3. Efficient use of filters by using shelve filters instead of many PK

They did few days back when I made a comment. They will be auto level so volume will be balance and increasing the peq band. They also mention separate eq for sub and main. We won’t probably see this feature till next year.

 

[Smartplug]

Did they announce any further improvements for RC?

Mainly

1.automatic independent speaker RC
2. Use of reductive only room correction algorithm
3. Efficient use of filters by using shelve filters instead of many PK

Hi Smartplug, team

As mentioned earlier, the current room correction (RC) operates differently based on your setup:

• Without a subwoofer: RC uses independent EQ adjustments for the left and right channels.
• With a subwoofer: RC automatically switches to stereo EQ for improved stability during calibration.

Our team is actively exploring ways to enhance this process:

1. Level Matching: Matching the levels of the main speakers and subwoofer before applying independent EQ adjustments for the left and right channels.
2. Expanded Bands: Adding more EQ bands and using separate bands for the main speakers and subwoofer.

This requires extensive testing with various microphones, especially on Android devices, which takes time. We appreciate your patience as we work on these improvements, and we’re confident the updates will significantly enhance your experience. Thank you for your understanding!

 

[ginger_ninja]

Hi Smartplug, team

As mentioned earlier, the current room correction (RC) operates differently based on your setup:

• Without a subwoofer: RC uses independent EQ adjustments for the left and right channels.
• With a subwoofer: RC automatically switches to stereo EQ for improved stability during calibration.

Our team is actively exploring ways to enhance this process:

1. Level Matching: Matching the levels of the main speakers and subwoofer before applying independent EQ adjustments for the left and right channels.
2. Expanded Bands: Adding more EQ bands and using separate bands for the main speakers and subwoofer.

This requires extensive testing with various microphones, especially on Android devices, which takes time. We appreciate your patience as we work on these improvements, and we’re confident the updates will significantly enhance your experience. Thank you for your understanding!

I'm still astounded at the level of interaction from Wiim, the way they monitor forum posts. Never known anything like this (are you listening Sonos?). I've just ditched our Sonos setup, couldn't take anymore & replaced with Minis as well as the Amp.

 

[slartibartfast]

I'm still astounded at the level of interaction from Wiim, the way they monitor forum posts. Never known anything like this (are you listening Sonos?). I've just ditched our Sonos setup, couldn't take anymore & replaced with Minis as well as the Amp.

Are you joking? The two posts you quoted aren't from WiiM. WiiM have a habit of ignoring forum posts for as long as possible even when they have asked for feedback. Latest example, the new Amp firmware appears to be missing functionality that was added to the Ultra and the Amp Pro a couple of weeks ago and still no response to a query about it.

 

[Smartplug]

I'm still astounded at the level of interaction from Wiim, the way they monitor forum posts. Never known anything like this (are you listening Sonos?). I've just ditched our Sonos setup, couldn't take anymore & replaced with Minis as well as the Amp.

Many expensive streamer that cost thousands of dollars have superior hardware that they designed in house but their weaknesses is in software. They only provide bug fixing which I’m not interested. I want both bug fixing and feature set that is being added. This where wiim is superior. They can turn their devices into power house.

 

[Smartplug]

Are you joking? The two posts you quoted aren't from WiiM. WiiM have a habit of ignoring forum posts for as long as possible even when they have asked for feedback. Latest example, the new Amp firmware appears to be missing functionality that was added to the Ultra and the Amp Pro a couple of weeks ago and still no response to a query about it.

Haha, I knew you would react. Do you remember what I said before new product will get more updates than the older ones. Despite the design hardware is not revolutionary but incremental from the older ones. Look at ultra get the most updates because it’s their flagship and top product priority is always comes first.

 

[MCG555]

I have been playing around with the room correction and really do not have a clue what I'm doing! The information provided by Wiim on room correction and EQ isn't very thorough (what is PK? What is Q?). Has anyone found any good Youtube tutorials on this?

One other question: I ran RC, but I am not sure it is actually "activated". By which I mean, on my app, my device settings show EQ is set to Auto. But when I click on Room Correction, it takes me to the screen that starts the whole process again. How do I know that room correction is active? (Is that what "Auto" means under EQ?)

Maybe you should have (at least a little) clue what you are doing.
ALL your questions you had, have been adressed already in this forum, most of them even in this thread…

 

[keiron99]

Maybe you should have (at least a little) clue what you are doing.
ALL your questions you had, have been adressed already in this forum, most of them even in this thread…

Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[ginger_ninja]

Maybe you should have (at least a little) clue what you are doing.
ALL your questions you had, have been adressed already in this forum, most of them even in this thread…

That's just rude. I've read through this thread & others and I still have a ton of stuff to work out. This is complex stuff for someone who has never used it before

 

[RyanWithWiim]

Are you joking? The two posts you quoted aren't from WiiM. WiiM have a habit of ignoring forum posts for as long as possible even when they have asked for feedback. Latest example, the new Amp firmware appears to be missing functionality that was added to the Ultra and the Amp Pro a couple of weeks ago and still no response to a query about it.

We're definitely monitoring threads and jump in when we can! We've got engineers, product managers, and executives all watching the forum, though they can't always get involved in threads, they love reading what you have to say.

I responded to your question about the Amp last week the team is working on updating it with that firmware version. It should be out really soon, but I'll check in with the team working on that to confirm.