Test WIIM pro+ with different power supplies

[RAAM]

A great quote I seem to have been following for many years now, "question everything" Einstein. Every single thing I think I know is just that, it is all subject to change as I learn more which I have spent many decades pursuing in dozens of areas, makes life much more interesting than just blinding following any sort of dogma. That said, everything I post is also subject to change if I learn otherwise, for now a combination of objective, subjective and open mindedness are what I go by and it works well for me. Take a deep look into the cosmos, inner space, ancient text and hieroglyphics, ruins all over the world, we are but a spec of time upon this amazing planet and barely comprehend just how magnificent it is at the micro and macro levels, let alone the universe. I for one believe we are blessed to live in such an incredible time and am grateful for each and everyday I get to see and learn more all of it I can take in. I have already stated what I believe is true about our differences in the subject of this thread, the same stand I have in all things.

Peace and prosperity to all in this very interesting new year ahead of us (which can and will mean many different things to everyone and to us all)

 

[onlyoneme]

Refraining from the dogmatic phrase “trust your ears” could be beneficial indeed.

 

[merifon]

Without calling into question mysticism, other esoteric disciplines or more materialistically logic, perhaps everything boils down to biochemistry (ohm's law and modal resonances excluded, they cannot be ignored): when something makes us produce more endorphins, even if it were a photo of Nikola Tesla affixed to the hifi system, the result is guaranteed...

 

[Balthazar B]

Refraining from the dogmatic phrase “trust your ears” could be beneficial indeed.

Well, if you can't trust your own ears, whose can you trust?

 

[onlyoneme]

Do you find a big difference between a good smps and a LPS with the Wiim pro?

I would say "better WiiM = lower impact of the PSU on the output noise".

 

[onlyoneme]

Well, if you can't trust your own ears, whose can you trust?

A safe answer could be "no one's"?

 

[cc_rider]

Well, if you can't trust your own ears, whose can you trust?

Which is why DBTs and measurements are the only way to ascertain actual differences.

If, as subjectivists frequently note, we all hear differently, then one person's opinion about how something "sounds" is irrelevant to the rest of us, surely. So why bother posting "impressions" at all?

 

[Musician]

Which is why DBTs and measurements are the only way to ascertain actual differences.

If, as subjectivists frequently note, we all hear differently, then one person's opinion about how something "sounds" is irrelevant to the rest of us, surely. So why bother posting "impressions" at all?

Have you read the objective measurements of the WiiM PROs spdif output, how it was modulated by the mains at 50 Hz with the stock supply ?

WiiM Pro Plus - Review & Measurements (Streamer)

The scale is totally different. You need to look at the same site to make sure that the method and measuring equipment is the same yes the scale of what I show is much harder ;-)

www.audiosciencereview.com

Edit: This forum is not ASR . Here , we want as good sound as possible, i.e we must trust our ears, because sometimes a coloration is perceived as a better sound.

 

[onlyoneme]

Have you read the objective measurements of the WiiM PROs spdif output, how it was modulated by the mains at 50 Hz with the stock supply ?

Have you ever seen the frequency spectrum of mains?

 

[cc_rider]

Have you read the objective measurements of the WiiM PROs spdif output, how it was modulated by the mains at 50 Hz with the stock supply ?

I have measured it myself to be bit-perfect. I was probably the first to measure it, or at least the Mini's spdif output, to be bit-perfect.

 

[RAAM]

I give up. some just prefer to believe they know more than everyone else and refuse to listen to others, that is fine. To keep hammering away with the same simple yet biased and unfounded "truth" in again poorly veiled attempts to support their dogma and show disrespect for others even though repeatedly asked to stop such behavior shows it is time to just move on so I will as have much better things to spend my time on.

When I get the time to do my own testing, my way, which is completely valid for what I want to achieve, I might post the results here for those with more open minds.

Good day,
Rick

 

[cc_rider]

Edit: This forum is not ASR . Here , we want as good sound as possible, i.e we must trust our ears, because sometimes a coloration is perceived as a better sound.

So, you make the rules for this forum?

 

[onlyoneme]

This forum is not ASR . Here , we want as good sound as possible, i.e we must trust our ears, because sometimes a coloration is perceived as a better sound.

This forum is not ASR . Here, I want as accurate sound as possible, i.e I will not trust my ears, because sometimes what I can hear is dominated by impressions made by my brain.

 

[canard]

I have measured it myself to be bit-perfect. I was probably the first to measure it, or at least the Mini's spdif output, to be bit-perfect.

when? (on ASR?) and above all with what technical approach?
;-)

 

[cc_rider]

when? (on ASR?) and above all with what technical approach?
;-)

As you well know, with the RME test tones. You can go to RME's forum and argue with them about it. Good luck! Lol.

 

[onlyoneme]

As you well know, with the RME test tones. You can go to RME's forum and argue with them about it. Good luck! Lol.

Well, I went there once as you probably remember and they agreed that the bit-perfect test can be fooled. Or this is my conclusion that they had agreed as I'm not gonna repeat it

 

[Vangelo51]

This forum is not ASR . Here, I want as accurate sound as possible, i.e I will not trust my ears, because sometimes what I can hear is dominated by impressions made by my brain.

Better not to have a brain, ehi?

 

[onlyoneme]

Better not to have a brain, ehi?

I can only rely on your experience on this topic.

 

[Vangelo51]

I can only rely on your experience on this topic.

You know all the answers......I learn from you, Master

 

[Vangelo51]

I give up. some just prefer to believe they know more than everyone else and refuse to listen to others, that is fine. To keep hammering away with the same simple yet biased and unfounded "truth" in again poorly veiled attempts to support their dogma and show disrespect for others even though repeatedly asked to stop such behavior shows it is time to just move on so I will as have much better things to spend my time on.

When I get the time to do my own testing, my way, which is completely valid for what I want to achieve, I might post the results here for those with more open minds.

Good day,
Rick

I'm with you RAAM....this is one of the most anti-audiophile, non-constructive or motivating forums I have ever been on. This is a joke....so I am here for the laughs