GarthTheChicken
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I would like to see an add on box for pro/pro plus/mini that provides a sub out and peq or rc and other specific dsp to allow better integration
FYI the SMSL Q5 Pro didn't measure well at ASR or probably anywhere else someone bothered to measure it.You can take an example from them, but the Wiim amplifier should be different from it.
It can be a choice: FDA integrated amplifier and mono power amplifiers. Eversolo is still an analog amplifier and there are many similar ones. There are many analog class D devices based on Hypex, Purifi etc. to choose from.
But if Wiim were completely digital FDA, it would be above the competition. It would not need a DAC, because it would be a DAC itself. Even Mini could be a good source with a preamplifier.
I am currently looking for such a used amplifier FDA, but it is very difficult, because people do not sell them. That says something. I've only seen one Sabaj A30a, but I don't like it.
If Wiim announces such a project, I do not buy an amplifier, I just wait for Wiim
... is not a fact, it's marketing speech. By no means does class D imply that the input signal was analogue. Different companies use different terms for their PCM to PWM conversion but none of this does away with the fact that the power section is still called class D.There is none, it is FDA, not class D (no intermediate conversion to analog).
I'd be happier with an amp void of controls, but instead a massive desktop remote control. Like in this case (it's a QUAD 66 PRE and its desktop system remote):WiiM Amp Pro with a screen. Then I'm all good.
Yeah - it's an ambiguous statement as the rider in brackets could refer to FDA or Class D. It's poorly expressed.@harkpabst: Maybe he wanted to say it the other way around: "Class-D amplifiers are not digital amplifiers"...
I'd be happier with an amp void of controls, but instead a massive desktop remote control. Like in this case (it's a QUAD 66 PRE and its desktop system remote):
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If brought up to date (touchscreen, jog wheel, buttons), utilizing Bluetooth and IR, this could be a killer feature! One even could add bindings with home automation.
Which would be perfectly correct then, yes.@harkpabst: Maybe he wanted to say it the other way around: "Class-D amplifiers are not digital amplifiers"...
The entry in brackets refers to FDA. It's clear to me. No signal conversion to analog in the FDA amplifier.Tak - to niejednoznaczne stwierdzenie, ponieważ zapis w nawiasach może odnosić się do FDA lub klasy D. Jest to źle sformułowane.
Digital only streamer
Am I missing something?
- Airplay
- Chromecast
- Ethernet
- Wifi 6E or higher
- USB in/out
- Optical in/out
- S/PDIF coaxial in/out
- HDMI Arc
- HDMI display out
- External power supply
P.S. This was the post with the "quoting the quote", I referred to in the other thread ;-)Which would be perfectly correct then, yes.
PS:
As stated in the articles I linked to.
I support you and wrote a bit about it in the previous post. I am in this situation now.Just my personal opinion.
The Amp, and particularly the Amp Pro are astonishingly good products for all-in-ones. I'm not sure about a 'better' all-in-one', as I'm not sure who it'd appeal to.
I may be wrong here, but I suspect most (though I'm sure not all) people wanting something even better than the Amp Pro would want, or at least be more than happy with, separates. So at this point, I think 'better' will mean power amps (to suit your speakers and budget), and an Ultra Pro.
Then maybe re-hash the existing products with a few tweaks.
The only way the Ultra could get better is larger screen, and/OR ability to cast (whether over a cable or wi-fi) with an existing TV/display, maybe greater pre amp functionality, more ins and outs, including HDMI pass through (see above about a display), and balanced outs (I presume the higher end amps would come with balanced ins).
And I'd love to see a dedicated analogue phono and line level pre amp/ADC. Ins for all types of cartridge and standard line level, a cracking good ADC, digital out to go to the Ultra.
It all depends on implementation. There are class A amps that suck and class D that rock. And vice versa. I was a class A A/B believer until I heard the AGD class D amps. Game changer for me. Better power management and incredible sound. Classifications are meant to tell you the kind of electronics they offer but not the soundLuckily, I'm not into discussion for discussion's sake. I'm just talking about facts. And this ...
... is not a fact, it's marketing speech. By no means does class D imply that the input signal was analogue. Different companies use different terms for their PCM to PWM conversion but none of this does away with the fact that the power section is still called class D.
Some are building narrative like this:
Bad to mediocre: Class D
Good to very good: Class A/B
Excellent to perfect: FDA
(Through in valve amps - irrespective of the working principal used - wherever you want.)
This is simply not the truth. Period.
What type of music do you mainly listen to? And what speakers do you use it with?It all depends on implementation. There are class A amps that suck and class D that rock. And vice versa. I was a class A A/B believer until I heard the AGD class D amps. Game changer for me. Better power management and incredible sound. Classifications are meant to tell you the kind of electronics they offer but not the sound
I would be interested if onboard DSP is powerful enough like Analog Devices' SHARC DSP.DSP?
I think I understood that it was not made by a dedicated chipI would be interested if onboard DSP is powerful enough like Analog Devices' SHARC DSP.
To me, Airplay vs Bluethooth is not about sound quality. It is about convenience - Airplay is not limited to BT range as long as devices are within a same network. Initiating connection to Airplay is much faster than BT.Most of that stuff is on ultra. If you don’t like the dac built on ultra you have flexibility to use its digital out that include toslink, coax and usb. Since airplay is not included you can use Bluetooth and get same lossy quality. Wiim want to simplify everything in one box and has the ability to bypass dac if you don’t like them.