Worth upgrading from stock RCA cables?

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Smartplug said:
I have purchase and returned rca cable from claiming esoteric cable that cost more than wiim itself. Firing up John Lennon imagine provide zero improvement over the rca cable that came from wiim. These company cost them a peanut to make cable and yet sell them at esoteric price. At the end of the day, the company made money and laught at you for believing such bs.
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I'm both disagreeing and agreeing, and I'm definitely agreeing about the exorbitant price for some cables!
Oh, to be young and gullible again...
I have a few different rca cables at various price points, including one that cost maybe twice what an ultra costs. Let's round it to A$1,000
Could I honestly say that most expensive one is noticably better than another that cost me A$100? Not really.
Do I think both are much better than the one that came with the Pro? Yes I do, in my setup / usage anyway.
 
ZoydWheeler said:
Hi all

Would anybody recommend upgrading from the stock RCA cables that come with the WiiM Pro Plus?

I’m interested to hear opinions and experiences on this. If it would genuinely improve my sound quality then I’ll invest in some.

Thanks for any advice, tips or thoughts 🙏
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If you want to hear the benefit from better cables, compared to the rather good stock WiiM cable, then buy the tripple shielded Focal elite 1 meter rca cable. Surprisingly cheap for a cable that really offers better sound . Cleaner with more details . This cable is as good as the Linn k20 is for loudspeakercables. Simply better.:)

Amazon is your friend in this case, and you can read all the lyrical reviews about happy owners of this cable. Its so good sounding I put away my Linn black interconnect and bought 2 pair more of this Focal cable.

Its unusual to find rca cables that make a real difference and the price of the cable gives usually no clue for better sound or not. Highend cables are usually high profit items and they sometime make the sound worse.
 
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ZoydWheeler said:
Hi all

Would anybody recommend upgrading from the stock RCA cables that come with the WiiM Pro Plus?

I’m interested to hear opinions and experiences on this. If it would genuinely improve my sound quality then I’ll invest in some.

Thanks for any advice, tips or thoughts 🙏
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Snake oil. HOurs of fun on Audio Science Review awaits
 
Mr Ee said:
Nope, the pro cable is noisy. Clear as night and day.
Everyone else in the house noticed it the next day, and I hadn't mentioned it to them at all. No expectation bias there.

I really don't understand why so many people seem to take so much pleasure in telling others that they must be wrong.
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Because some people insist on spreading unscientific, subjective, actually *wrong* alternative truths as facts, when it’s quite clearly psychoacoustics at best, or intentional misleading others.

It‘s the equivalent of being a flat earther in an astronomy forum.
 
McMx72 said:
Because some people insist on spreading unscientific, subjective, actually *wrong* alternative truths as facts, when it’s quite clearly psychoacoustics at best, or intentional misleading others.

It‘s the equivalent of being a flat earther in an astronomy forum.
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I totally agree that there are an awful lot of myths out there, and if you were to look over all my posts I'd like to think you'd find an accepting yet scientific bias to them.
But it should be quite clear that in this specific example, with whatever factors were in play, that when 3 others in the house all noticed a difference when they had no knowledge of any changes then it's not psychoacoustics nor intentionally misleading.

Why couldn't it be that, in this example, something caused a different cable to behave differently?
Are you telling me that you've never heard any cable of any type sound different from any other? (Rhetorical question.)

I'm not asking others to believe me (my stock response is 'try for yourself' for all these types of questions); I'm asking others not to act on their seemingly compelling need to belittle others from their position of perceived superiority.
 
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Mr Ee said:
I totally agree that there are an awful lot of myths out there, and if you were to look over all my posts I'd like to think you'd find an accepting yet scientific bias to them.
But it should be quite clear that in this specific example, with whatever factors were in play, that when 3 others in the house all noticed a difference when they had no knowledge of any changes then it's not psychoacoustics nor intentionally misleading.

Why couldn't it be that, in this example, something caused a different cable to behave differently?
Are you telling me that you've never heard any cable of any type sound different from any other? (Rhetorical question.)

I'm not asking others to believe me (my stock response is 'try for yourself' for all these types of questions)'; I'm asking others not to act on their seemingly compelling need to belittle others from their position of perceived superiority.
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Its unusual to find rca cables that make a real difference and the price of the cable gives usually no clue for better sound or not. Highend cables are usually high profit items and they sometimes make the sound worse. But there are exceptions .

There are small audible differences between some cables ( even at ASR one member , PMA, proved it with blind listening tests and measurements and the thread was immediately shut down ) and one can buy a rca cable that is sounding better than the WiiM stock cable, with better unmagnetic connectors and tripple shielding.
The Focal elite 1m is one example, made for car audio.

 
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Musician said:
If you want to hear the benefit from better cables, compared to the rather good stock WiiM cable, then buy the tripple shielded Focal elite 1 meter rca cable. Surprisingly cheap for a cable that really offers better sound . Cleaner with more details . This cable is as good as the Linn k20 is for loudspeakercables. Simply better.:)

Amazon is your friend in this case, and you can read all the lyrical reviews about happy owners of this cable. Its so good sounding I put away my Linn black interconnect and bought 2 pair more of this Focal cable.

Its unusual to find rca cables that make a real difference and the price of the cable gives usually no clue for better sound or not. Highend cables are usually high profit items and they sometime make the sound worse.
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I bought this one for a trial. I thought it's a single cable but no, it's a pair.
From an electrical point of view it has very low shield resistance which is great. I was afraid of the capacitance which is sometimes high for cables advertised as triple shielded, but no, it's low. Looks really promising, thx for the suggestion.
 
onlyoneme said:
I bought this one for a trial. I thought it's a single cable but no, it's a pair.
From an electrical point of view it has very low shield resistance which is great. I was afraid of the capacitance which is sometimes high for cables advertised as triple shielded, but no, it's low. Looks really promising, thx for the suggestion.
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Thanks for measuring the resistance and capacitance, verifying its a good cable. In my opinion, Its a fantastic bargain.
 
onlyoneme said:
So instead bunch of the "bullshit" related to the statement "in audio every part of the chain matters" and its consequences.
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Better than blindly believing in graphs numbers you don't have a clue about and declare that as scientific.
 
Cables can be a fun study. One suggestion is to get started by playing music through your WiiM using the fine cables provided. Then settle in for lots of reading before laying your cash down. There’s plenty of time for making decisions. Archimago’s Musings, Audioholics, Audio Science Review provide objective facts, and Steve Hoffman Music Forums, Audiokarma and many others are available for subjective opinions. It’s all good!

I forgot to mention Doctor John Cheap Tube Audio- He has a guide to his views on cables that was very inspiring. A very interesting audio site.
 
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a lot of empty talks, science bla bla...science change from day to day...let's get some example, album ballads by dexter gordon...

i am using some ordinary cable, it was actually dnm solid core cable and after that van den hul d102mk3...with dnm music starts and stop early, like it was cut with the axe...with vdh 102 i heard his saxophone a little bit longer, with clearly heard sound of sax fading a lot longer sounding like pfffffff into silence...you can hear the difference from the other room...

does it matter in the grand scheme of things? depends on your perspective, but no one can tell me all cables sounds the same...it simply isn't true...just use some well known and good recording and find for yourself...

are there cables worth 10.000 dollars per meter, it's a whole another question...
 
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