More inputs please! And maybe a tape loop?

[ralphs99]

Another 1x digital and 1x analog inputs would be great!

While I'm at it, maybe a tape loop as well? ie a fixed volume output derived from the source input to go to a recording device, and a return that can be sent to the main outputs for monitoring in place of the source input. Does that make sense?

In other words, when monitoring from a recording device that's recording from the selected source input, the signal path would be: Source --> Fixed out; Recorder return --> Main output

Probably a niche application, but would be awesome!

Cheers, Ralph

 

[harkpabst]

Keeping the USB output is great with some internal storage option. Would like to make an upgrade from the WiiM Pro but would strong preference for a design to allow for external power options.

It appears there's growing evidence among audio manufacturers that many streaming devices may benefit from a LPS but apparently more so with the low-ripple battery type powered options. Thank you, WiiM!

Is your post related to this feature request or did you post to the wrong thread?

 

[taube Taube]

I just dislike the fact how it's become fashionable to talk down plain anything, because "nobody needs that" or - even more disgusting - because "I don't need that and will look elsewhere if this is implemented".

A luxury airliner is equipped with every possible amenity: there’s a movie theater on the first floor, a swimming pool and a bar on the second, and a casino and a golf course on the third.
The captain's voice comes over the intercom:
"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard our super-liner. The weather is perfect and the flight should be smooth."
Then, after a long, heavy sigh, he adds:
"And now, with all this crap on board, we’re going to try to take off!"

---

 

[harkpabst]

Sorry, that's plain silly and not helpful for anybody.

 

[Aquaman]

Sorry, that's plain silly and not helpful for anybody.

I don‘t think it‘s silly at all.
What isn‘t there can‘t break or even worse, compromise vital functions.

We are talking about consumer products. But many of the contributions on here are directed at turning WiiMs into hobbyist studio devices.
THIS is what‘s not helpful at all.

 

[taube Taube]

Sorry, that's plain silly and not helpful for anybody.

It's funny, though. I had a lot of tape recorders and amplifiers with loops in my time. And yet, I don't understand these "tales from the crypt" at all. If I ever revert to childhood, I'll use the right equipment.

 

[harkpabst]

What isn‘t there can‘t break or even worse, compromise vital functions.

Yes, and what isn't there doesn't provide functionality. It couldn't be more trivial.

It's funny, though. I had a lot of tape recorders and amplifiers with loops in my time. And yet, I don't understand these "tales from the crypt" at all. If I ever revert to childhood, I'll use the right equipment.

By all means, enjoy your own preferences. But your only argument is still that because I don't need it, nobody needs it. That's a weak argument.

 

[taube Taube]

By all means, enjoy your own preferences. But your only argument is still that because I don't need it, nobody needs it. That's a weak argument.

Thank you, absolutely. Can you remind me where I formulated this argument in this exact form, other than your post, of course?

 

[ralphs99]

Just add another WiiM and use its input/output, problem solved.

That could be a solution, if two WiiM's can be controlled as one? One unit designated as the master and the other as slave, with for example, 2x Ultra giving 8x inputs, and the master being the unit with the audio output, the slave output remaining unused. The software would obviously need to be able to switch between the 8x inputs

2x Ultra's setup like this could then potentially offer stereo subwoofer outputs. I think there have been some requests for this

And the slave output could mimic the master but with a fixed or variable output for people who need multiple outputs simultaneously. I think there have been some requests for this also

Taking this idea one step further, the fixed slave output could be used for a tape loop (with sub out disabled of course) and one of the inputs assigned for a tape loop. The software would obviously need to have a tape loop feature that selects a different source to be output from the slave, compared to the input selected for the master output

Finally, with two Ultra's controlled as one, 2x turntable inputs could be used for DJ'ing purposes. The software could provide some cross-mixing capabilities with the slave output becoming a monitor feed. Have there been requests for this?

Finally finally, how about 2x (3x, 4x!) WiiM's being used for an active crossover? Or even becoming a MiniDSP-like device with per-speaker-driver correction, in addition to overall EQ? I suspect this is going to be too niche!

 

[harkpabst]

That could be a solution, if two WiiM's can be controlled as one?

WiiM devices can be linked into groups for multi-room usage since about forever. One device is the group-lead, the others are followers.

This concept has been enhanced over time, e.g. by introducing persistent groups (you can have multiple of those and each device can be member of multiple groups). And of course it still works with all the devices in the same room.

As of now the linkage is "limited" to "higher than CD" resolution, which is discussed by some but certainly not relevant in this context.

Community members have already used device grouping for adding subwoofers to their systems (which really just started to make sense since high pass and low pass filters have been added to the PEQ) and it also forms the basis of WiiM's surround sound setup.

So, this concept is already used pretty universally, which makes it less likely that WiiM would ever consider making things like an AVR or a full width integrated amplifier with all analogue inputs and volume control.

Thank you, absolutely. Can you remind me where I formulated this argument in this exact form, other than your post, of course?

I suggest everyone should spend more time on features they want and less time on features they want to prevent.

 

[rccarguy]

That could be a solution, if two WiiM's can be controlled as one? One unit designated as the master and the other as slave, with for example, 2x Ultra giving 8x inputs, and the master being the unit with the audio output, the slave output remaining unused. The software would obviously need to be able to switch between the 8x inputs

2x Ultra's setup like this could then potentially offer stereo subwoofer outputs. I think there have been some requests for this

And the slave output could mimic the master but with a fixed or variable output for people who need multiple outputs simultaneously. I think there have been some requests for this also

Taking this idea one step further, the fixed slave output could be used for a tape loop (with sub out disabled of course) and one of the inputs assigned for a tape loop. The software would obviously need to have a tape loop feature that selects a different source to be output from the slave, compared to the input selected for the master output

Finally, with two Ultra's controlled as one, 2x turntable inputs could be used for DJ'ing purposes. The software could provide some cross-mixing capabilities with the slave output becoming a monitor feed. Have there been requests for this?

Finally finally, how about 2x (3x, 4x!) WiiM's being used for an active crossover? Or even becoming a MiniDSP-like device with per-speaker-driver correction, in addition to overall EQ? I suspect this is going to be too niche!

Absurd

 

[taube Taube]

to prevent

Prevent? There's no need for that. An analog loopback function in a digital device would require an additional DAC-ADC pair. The likelihood of developing such device is zero.

Speaking of something practical, that about connecting DSP in a line break in digital form, it might be necessary for more people.