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I will try that. as long as my latency settings look correct, will do a few more runs.

In the meantime, I changed the crossover to 80hz, the lower peaks are better but now -10db at 80hz?

I listened to some music with sub-bass and heard no output at all. lol, 6.5" only goes so far.

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I will try that. as long as my latency settings look correct, will do a few more runs.

In the meantime, I changed the crossover to 80hz, the lower peaks are better but now -10db at 80hz?

I listened to some music with sub-bass and heard no output at all. lol, 6.5" only goes so far.

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Its dip is 90hz; the line between 50hz and 100hz is 80hz.
 
If the sub and speaker distance to my ears is 10cm difference? 230cm/240cm. I'm a bit lost overall. it's still big improvement.
The sub has a greater delay than the speakers inherent to it for various reasons; this is the reason why we had to go through complicated calculations to, "add delay," for the difference between the distance of the sub to the WiiM versus the distance of the sub to your listening position, and then the same again for the speakers, to get the true delay. At the end of the day, all of this crazy math is an attempt to resolve a situation that should not be difficult at all for WiiM to fix, which is to change the auto-sync function to allow you to pick the mic and/or at the very minimum change it to use the phone/tablet mic and not the mic built into the streamer.

-Ed
 
What results do you get when you turn off the subwoofer setting and run RoomFit with just the main speakers?
 
If the sub and speaker distance to my ears is 10cm difference? 230cm/240cm. I'm a bit lost overall. it's still big improvement.
And prior to fiddling more with delay remember to try this:

Try inverse phase/polarity (180 degrees instead of 0) on the sub or in subwoofer settings.
Do it either on the sub (less convenient) or in the WiiM Home app, not both at the same time.
 
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setting the sub at 180 (on sub) all other settings the same, still missing bass info, going to listen again.

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setting the sub at 180 (on sub) all other settings the same, still missing bass info, going to listen again.

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Are these two screenshots from the same RoomFit run? If so, then there's something extremely fishy.

Looking at the final assessment alone this looks ugly as hell, of course. But there is a big peak now around the crossover frequency where used to be a deep dip. This fact alone indicates to me that the inverted polarity is correct.

You don't use the "Main Speakers Output Bass" setting, do you?
 
Are these two screenshots from the same RoomFit run? If so, then there's something extremely fishy.

Looking at the final assessment alone this looks ugly as hell, of course. But there is a big peak now around the crossover frequency where used to be a deep dip. This fact alone indicates to me that the inverted polarity is correct.

You don't use the "Main Speakers Output Bass" setting, do you?

not using "main speakers output bass"

yes the screenshots were from the 180 run.

something still not right. not sure what is going on.

yeah more mid-bass now and generally a better listen.
 
But the final assessment ist totally different from the prediction. That's odd.
 
But the final assessment ist totally different from the prediction. That's odd.
Agreed; it's baffling.

At this point, I would suggest using a third party app to perform evaluation/analyzation of results. HouseCurve is a good one which utilizes the UMIK-1 and it is free.

-Ed
 
At this Point you could finally try to adjust the Main speaker delay by +/- 1 or 2 ms or change the crossover +/- 5 or 10 Hz.

But always only one or the other, never both at the same time. And only if you feel like tinkering because the latest result doesn't look bad regarding sub integration.
 
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