WiiM Ultra Firmware v5.2.709956 - Mar 6, 2025

[canard]

I have to agree. I tried the 2 new coloured VU meters and really like the cream coloured background, but unfortunately it is not viewable at a few meters distance away. Perhaps for a desktop/near field application it works.

It would be better if the needle and readings were bold/thicker. The original colour scheme is the most readable so I've reverted back to this.

However, and I know it's been mentioned a few times already, but a digital VU meter or spectrum analyzer would have been a better addition..

your use of spectrum analyzer here?

 

[submarinedog]

your use of spectrum analyzer here?

For people like me, just to be able to appreciate the music by hearing and seeing as the music plays. With the only available screen and selling point of the Ultra, why not?

 

[canard]

For people like me, just to be able to appreciate the music by hearing and seeing as the music plays. With the only available screen and selling point of the Ultra, why not?

I know... ;-)
but if I tell you that to do this Wiim will consume resources, which seem limited, which could-should be allocated to functions concerning the audio aspect, risk of distortions, development of the rc-peq mode, etc. etc. monitoring of the impact of their firmware etc debug etc?
(for all wiim machine..not only screen of ultra?)
Things sometimes expected for years...
for your listening comfort...

;-)

but don't worry...I'm sure it come... ;-)

 

[submarinedog]

I know... ;-)
but if I tell you that to do this Wiim will consume resources, which seem limited, which could-should be allocated to functions concerning the audio aspect, risk of distortions, development of the rc-peq mode, etc. etc. monitoring of the impact of their firmware etc debug etc?
Things sometimes expected for years...
for your listening comfort... ;-)

If that's the case then I agree. Most consumers probably don't think about this - me included Function over form 100%.

Maybe for Ultra v2!

 

[harkpabst]

If that's the case then I agree. Most consumers probably don't think about this - me included Function over form 100%.

Maybe for Ultra v2!

This is all about software, so I'm still positive that they will take care of it at some point for the existing product range.

 

[WiiM Support]

For people like me, just to be able to appreciate the music by hearing and seeing as the music plays. With the only available screen and selling point of the Ultra, why not?

Hi Team,

Are you referring to the spectrum analyzer as something like this? Thanks!

 

[Jamesw72]

Hi Team,

Are you referring to the spectrum analyzer as something like this? Thanks!

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That would be great to have that as a option..

 

[hgo58]

Hi Team,

Are you referring to the spectrum analyzer as something like this? Thanks!

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No. That was just a joke after asking an AI for what it would suggest.

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@hgo58

Unfortunately this new VU meters settings is not working correctly.

Setting it to show source (input) it do that but the meter stay around +10 dB. The same is true for output measures. Even at 20% volume it is about +5 dB.

It's looking like the measures are not logarithmic as they should be.

The audio volume at 20% of the maximum amplitude is approximately -14.0 dBFS. Similarly, 20% of a reference value in decibels (dB) is also approximately-14.0 dB.

So as noted before, the scale is wrong.

With the new VU meters there is also the issue that the "needle" cannot...

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https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/wiim-ultra-firmware-v5-2-709956-mar-6-2025.6689/post-115063

Unless there is enough resources to make a real frequency display, the request was for the existing VU meters to actually work and show correct values.

The most important point is to be able to check that the pre-gain and EQ don't introduce clipping.

And then it would be nice to be able to see the VU meters from a distance.

 

[EddNog]

Hi Team,

Are you referring to the spectrum analyzer as something like this? Thanks!

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This is exactly it, as per the photo of my system where I am using an external spectrum analyzer. If I had that built into the WiiM, it would for sure be my playback screen.

-Ed

 

[Wiimer]

Hi Team,

Are you referring to the spectrum analyzer as something like this? Thanks!

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This is a from Kenwood compo in the 80s .

 

[canard]

This is all about software, so I'm still positive that they will take care of it at some point for the existing product range.

sure... ))

 

[Ronnie D]

Hi Team,

Are you referring to the spectrum analyzer as something like this? Thanks!

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Or something like this?

 

[canard]

Or something like this?View attachment 18383

no no no....

 

[EddNog]

Or something like this?View attachment 18383

That's only a total level measurement, and is not broken out by frequency range.

-Ed

 

[hgo58]

That's only a total level measurement, and is not broken out by frequency range.

-Ed

And showing a power amplifier output.

 

[Ronnie D]

Sorry! I thought some people were looking for a line level input meter to match up different inputs.

 

[Saponetto]

Hi Team,

Are you referring to the spectrum analyzer as something like this? Thanks!

View attachment 18380

Gorgeous, but how could it impact on Ultra's system resources, e.g. processor load and RAM usage?
A lot, I can suppose...

 

[Valentino]

Sorry! I thought some people were looking for a line level input meter to match up different inputs.

I am, but I prefer needles.

This is how I think a stereo dBFS meter should be modeled on the Ultra. It would max out at 0dBFS (not +3 dB like here). Colours could be yellow or orange from -6 to -3 dBFS and red from -3 to 0 dBFS. As you can see there would be room for -40 to 0 dBFS (1% to 100%),
Picture is stolen from an earlier post by user @cc_rider.
@WiiM Team

 

[adias]

A lot of the posters do not seem interested in music, but rather in silly/useless gizmos. That is fine, except that their demands push @WiiM Team away from its core mission - music playback functionality. Piling up further DSP processing and screen currents adds additional digital noise which pollutes and degrades the output stream. I say to @WiiM Team: save your resources aand concentrate on what really matters.

For those interested in music - turn off the screen.

 

[Maurizio]

A lot of the posters do not seem interested in music, but rather in silly/useless gizmos. That is fine, except that their demands push @WiiM Team away from its core mission - music playback functionality. Piling up further DSP processing and screen currents adds additional digital noise which pollutes and degrades the output stream. I say to @WiiM Team: save your resources aand concentrate on what really matters.

For those interested in music - turn off the screen.

1) So why make a device with a screen and then not use it?
2) You are a bit too absolutist and assertive. We are not all the same.
For example smart presets, group devices, sub functionalities don't interest me at all, but they interest others, so welcome for those who want these functions.
I am not asking WiiM to ignore them