How to use Room Correction?

[harkpabst]

Your Graphic EQ will turn off the Room Correction EQ completely. Shame you can't use both really.

Not yet. But WiiM promised that they're working on it.

Next I want (in addition) speaker EQ independent of room correction EQ (using PEQ, of course). Basically, I just want them to give me everything that Lyngdorf does at a fraction of the price.

Indeed, I tried all 3 but but bk sounds the best. I thought flat would give the best because every measurements and reviewers aim for that response. It lack the depth and soundstage.

Which YouTube reviewer still aims at flat in-room response? Not what the more respectable ones do. Not counting in those who don't even know how to measure, which requires some real knowledge.

 

[Burnside]

I don’t think Erin agrees that a flat in-room response is what should be aimed at (if I’m following the thread correctly…)

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Longer version:

 

[FrankB777]

Why does it not sound better sometimes?
I find that my own EQ setting, which are like a smile, boosting bass and treble, and lowering mids, seems best for me…

 

[Smartplug]

Why does it not sound better sometimes?
I find that my own EQ setting, which are like a smile, boosting bass and treble, and lowering mids, seems best for me…

Not every music benefits on your setting. Some older not good recording would help make them sound better. Good recording does not need adjustments.

 

[ginger_ninja]

I've found using the B&K curve with L/R correction has made my ears the most happy, especially using an external mic(iMM-6C in my case). Soundstage is wider, more detail, just plain better overall.

Yeah for some reason RC won't recognise my IMM-6C Am positive it did when I tried this on my Pro.

 

[slartibartfast]

Yeah for some reason RC won't recognise my IMM-6C Am positive it did when I tried this on my Pro.

Do you have any other phones to try it with?

 

[harkpabst]

Why does it not sound better sometimes?
I find that my own EQ setting, which are like a smile, boosting bass and treble, and lowering mids, seems best for me…

That's your taste of boosted highs and lows. Room correction cannot know your taste unless it allows to define a matching "house curve".

But even that is not really the best solution because your taste might vary for different styles of music. Your taste has nothing to do with neutral music reproduction, but it is still your taste. So, the best solution is to let room correction do just that (correcting room influences) and apply EQ to your taste on top of it.

Currently this is not possible, but WiiM are working on it.

Yeah for some reason RC won't recognise my IMM-6C Am positive it did when I tried this on my Pro.

This should be related to the WiiM Home app only, not the WiiM device. But you never know unless you wrote the code yourself.

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[ginger_ninja]

Still tweaking my custom EQ. Just listened to Steely Dan - Aja using this and it sounded FANTASTIC. Warm but punchy, little details coming through like hihats/guitar that I'd never noticed before. Plus the highs and trebles aren't making my tinnitus kick in. Am veering towards EQ - that's a very good point from @harkpabst above: RC doesn't know your tastes. Just because it may be 'correct', doesn't mean you'll automatically like it!

 

[s3igell]

Yeah for some reason RC won't recognise my IMM-6C Am positive it did when I tried this on my Pro.

Perhaps you have loaded another App (line HouseCurve or REW) that has claimed Exclusive Use of your IMM-6C. Try a full Power-Off Restart of your Phone...

 

[ginger_ninja]

Perhaps you have loaded another App (line HouseCurve or REW) that has claimed Exclusive Use of your IMM-6C. Try a full Power-Off Restart of your Phone...

No it's not that, I have an Android phone. Although at this rate am starting to not care so much as normal EQ is sounding great

 

[MCG555]

After a couple of months usage of RC, I decided today to go back to not using it any longer. at least for the moment…
There are always 2 sides of the medal: Yes, I definitely have less bass modes and that is good. But on the other hand I sometimes get ringing, pumping and other artifacts (despite very careful and sensitive usage), and somehow the sound feels a bit „pressed“, a bit artificial.
I tried to optimize the setup in many ways over the last months and out of curiosity I got back to my original setup (without RC) and discovered above findings…
A part of of the findings will be psycho-accoustics though, I guess .… Because I liked RC when it has been released and after various improvements!

Anyway, I will try again in a couple of days weeks or months …

 

[canard]

are you using a wide or reduced correction range, like below 55/ 300hz( or less, )? see by timing after measurements and correction, limited the corrections in positive gain manuelly?
( microphone with cal?)

but sure....the brain is a great DSP ( and fortunately) ... ;-)

 

[MCG555]

are you using a wide or reduced correction range, like below 55/ 300hz( or less, )? see by timing after measurements and correction, limited the corrections in positive gain manuelly?
( microphone with cal?)

but sure....the brain is a great DSP ( and fortunately) ... ;-)

Yeah, yeah, I only correct up to 400Hz. Low Q values and gains where necessay only up to 3dB. The point is also, bass from modes is not the same as bass from speakers - at least this is my impression. So the corrected bass representation is less rich / different. Not sure what I like better…

 

[canard]

Yeah, yeah, I only correct up to 400Hz. Low Q values and gains where necessay only up to 3dB. The point is also, bass from modes is not the same as bass from speakers - at least this is my impression. The bass representation after correction is different. Not sure what I like better…

the real particular worries with the "q" is in ls hs mode... maybe you stick to not even 400hz but a 300hz and especially not even corrected under 50hz would be more interesting...

all this is only if your listening point is really defined....

(Personally, I have always stuck to heavily correcting the subwoofers with peq... and do not use the rc mode of wiim... ;-) )

 

[MCG555]

the real particular worries with the "q" is in ls hs mode... maybe you stick to not even 400hz but a 300hz and especially not even corrected under 50hz would be more interesting...

all this is only if your listening point is really defined....

(Personally, I have always stuck to heavily correcting the subwoofers with peq... and do not use the rc mode of wiim... ;-) )

Regarding Q value - I only used PK and had partially strange artifacts!

I still correct - but directly on the subwoofer - it is the only place where correction is needed…
But yeah, it is a dilemma: the modes are different on the main listening position and the rest of the room. And as it is a big room where I also cook and dine, it supposed to sound good everywhere… compromises everywhere…

 

[Sake]

Still tweaking my custom EQ. Just listened to Steely Dan - Aja using this and it sounded FANTASTIC. Warm but punchy, little details coming through like hihats/guitar that I'd never noticed before. Plus the highs and trebles aren't making my tinnitus kick in. Am veering towards EQ - that's a very good point from @harkpabst above: RC doesn't know your tastes. Just because it may be 'correct', doesn't mean you'll automatically like it!

Because you seems to like Steely Dan, Donald Fagen, you are a hero in advance, can't miss