WiiM Amp

It’s possibly an issue for a few WiiM models given reports here and elsewhere. Submit a ticket - the more who do, the better chance they have of fixing it. Make sure you identify the make and model of the headphones.

Thanks Very much for your reply.
Do I have to report the issue through the app?
I will do it .. hoping it helps.
I assume the Bluetooth antenna from the wimm can't be the cause..I don't know.
But I will report the issue to Wiim with the app.

My headphones are Dali IO6.
Haven't any issues with them with my pc,tv or smartphone.
 
Just on the back of this, what are the advantages of using Bluetooth of the Amp rather than a phone - other than saving phone battery? Are there any benefits in quality?
Thanks
 
Just on the back of this, what are the advantages of using Bluetooth of the Amp rather than a phone - other than saving phone battery? Are there any benefits in quality?
Thanks
I wanted to test it then i got the stutter issues unfortunately.
The Bluetooth coming from the wiimamp could be produce a better sound than from a phone I suppose?.
I'm not sure..it's an aac codec but a codecisonly one thing.
Or doesn't it produce a better sound then I phone? I don't know.
Don't know why wimm don't support a aptx or aptxhd codec .
But for know I hope the stuttering issues can be solved.
 
For me, because I almost exclusively use LMS, there is the ability to control playback via the headphones rather than reaching for my phone. Very useful with a headband with BT used for sleeping!

I am having issues with BT stutter. I don't think it is the antenna that is the problem. The signal extends quite some distance. WiiM are investigating currently, but the more tickets raised the better, I think. There have been some improvements but the problem is by no means resolved yet.

Steve


Just on the back of this, what are the advantages of using Bluetooth of the Amp rather than a phone - other than saving phone battery? Are there any benefits in quality?
Thanks
 
I wanted to test it then i got the stutter issues unfortunately.
The Bluetooth coming from the wiimamp could be produce a better sound than from a phone I suppose?.
I'm not sure..it's an aac codec but a codecisonly one thing.
Or doesn't it produce a better sound then I phone? I don't know.
Don't know why wimm don't support a aptx or aptxhd codec .
But for know I hope the stuttering issues can be solved.
When using Bluetooth, the sound is amplified by the headphones themselves, so which device is transmitting the Bluetooth stream to the headphones doesn't really matter, in the sense that e.g. two devices transmitting the same music with the same codec and bitrate will produce identical results on the same pair of headphones/speakers. That being said, it does matter if a device has a poor Bluetooth chip/antenna (which will lead to a bad connection and/or worse quality), or if it doesn't support higher quality codecs. The Wiim doesn't support aptX, LDAC or LHDC (yet?), but I know it does at least support SBC-XQ (goes up to about 550 kbps) as a receiver. I'm not sure if it can also transmit SBC-XQ, though.
 
I dont know either.
Isn't it an issue you have to select Bluetooth on the app in stead of the device itself?
Don't know if this has to do anything with it.

I don't know if it has to do anything with the antenna.
What I can say if a walk away from the amp and am from a bigger distance ( 10 meter) I still have connection.
The stuttering is there also when im in little distance to the amp.
 
Another question i did read on the manual is if the amp connected to a bluetooth device the led must be green.
I connected my daliio6 but the led was white..?

Maybe this is when you choose Bluetooth input.. sorry I thought this had something to do with it.
 
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The Denon DRA-F107 has not been available as a separate product but only bundled with the DCD-F107 CD player and SC-F107 speakers. The entire set sold for roughly 650 € (list price, street price dropped below 450 € a year or so after introduction). And it was made roughly 15 years ago.

How can you know for sure the Denon is at "least (bold!) as good as the WiiM Amp", just because the WiiM amp is so "cheap"? ;)


It's not perfectly clear to me if you got it that the Dali speakers did not originally come with this amp. We can still conclude that there's no obvious problem for the DRA-F107 driving them, if @Giro413 has been using this combo for a while. I did not find any measurements of the Lektor 2 specifically but Dali has a reputation for making easy to drive speakers. Nominal impedance is 6 ohms and them being small and simple 2-way designs we shouldn expect them to be a non-critical load for most every amplifier.

Some pros for the Denon (e.g. more versatile remote, more legacy inputs, ...). Some pros for the WiiM Amp (e.g. more power, feature-rich streamer and decent DAC already included, 15 years younger design, somewhat basic but vastly superior subwoofer management, EQ, ...). Just for subwoofer management and EQ alone I would probably give the WiiM Amp a try.

I won't pretend I can predict the outcome but personally I'd be willing to take that risk.

Con for the WiiM Amp: DAC not exactly on par with the WiiM Pro Plus, so replacing the Denon with a different higher quality amp-only device might yield even better results (at the expense of more clutter compared to WiiM Amp). It all depends on what you want.
Thank you for your take on this, @harkpabst.
If the Wiim Amp indeed has a lower quality DAC than the Wiim Pro Plus I will definitely not want to make that switch. I could consider a better amp, but to my needs I do think my current setup will suffice. At least for now.
Just to be 100% accurate the Denon DRA-F107 was not bundled with the mentioned speakers, in my case. I bought the system (and the DCD-F107) with the Dali Lektor 2's that I am still using from the Danish retailer Hi-Fi Klubben, at their recommendation and after listening to several different speakers. Based on that, I do think that the system fits well together.
 
Just on the back of this, what are the advantages of using Bluetooth of the Amp rather than a phone - other than saving phone battery? Are there any benefits in quality?
Thanks
If the source is a turntable on Line in or a TV via optical or HDMI, then you have to use the Amp's bluetooth out, not your phone.
If the source is a streaming service, then the selected codec might differ. Depends on your phone.
Another question i did read on the manual is if the amp connected to a bluetooth device the led must be green.
I connected my daliio6 but the led was white..?

Maybe this is when you choose Bluetooth input.. sorry I thought this had something to do with it.
The led is bright green when the source is a bluetooth device, not the output.
 
Just to be 100% accurate the Denon DRA-F107 was not bundled with the mentioned speakers, in my case. I bought the system (and the DCD-F107) with the Dali Lektor 2's that I am still using from the Danish retailer Hi-Fi Klubben, at their recommendation and after listening to several different speakers. Based on that, I do think that the system fits well together.
Thanks for making this clear. Officially, Denon only ever sold the bundle. But Hi-Fi Klubben - being the major player they are - might have had a separate deal or might have sold the speakers separately.

After all, Peter Lyngdorf is the founder of Dali and of Hi-Fi Klubben (plus a number of other companies like the self-named Lyngdorf and Steinway-Lyngdorf and NAD, to name just a few ...).
 
It can do white, and the other colors don't look like "simple" LEDs, so I think it's an RGB LED, and if I were a bit less lazy, I'd open a feature request to make it configurable ;p
 
Thanks for making this clear. Officially, Denon only ever sold the bundle. But Hi-Fi Klubben - being the major player they are - might have had a separate deal or might have sold the speakers separately.

After all, Peter Lyngdorf is the founder of Dali and of Hi-Fi Klubben (plus a number of other companies like the self-named Lyngdorf and Steinway-Lyngdorf and NAD, to name just a few )

seems to be sold (maybe at the end of the product's life or end of stock etc.) also without speakers in France...
;-)
 
I just got my WiiM amp and am trying it out in the bedroom system. I was previously running an Apple TV into an SMSL SU-9 DAC and 40W tube amp. The DAC doubled as a volume control so I wasn't using a preamp. I'm repurposing the SU-9 and amp.

So what's the best way to hookup an Apple TV with the WiiM amp. The TV has HDMI eARC and optical out. Right now I have the Apple TV HDMI out into the TV and am running the optical out from the TV into the WiiM. To switch between TV and music on the WiiM app I have to dig a few clicks into the menu to change audio inputs. Is this best practice given my parameters, or is there something slicker?
 
I just got my WiiM amp and am trying it out in the bedroom system. I was previously running an Apple TV into an SMSL SU-9 DAC and 40W tube amp. The DAC doubled as a volume control so I wasn't using a preamp. I'm repurposing the SU-9 and amp.

So what's the best way to hookup an Apple TV with the WiiM amp. The TV has HDMI eARC and optical out. Right now I have the Apple TV HDMI out into the TV and am running the optical out from the TV into the WiiM. To switch between TV and music on the WiiM app I have to dig a few clicks into the menu to change audio inputs. Is this best practice given my parameters, or is there something slicker?
When you turn on auto-sensing for WiiM amp, does it automatically switch inputs?
 
When you turn on auto-sensing for WiiM amp, does it automatically switch inputs?
Ah, yes it does! I set it to WiFi for music. Shut down the app, shut down the amp. I then turned the amp back on, waited for the connect chime, turned on the app and it still said WiFi. Then I selected Netflix on the Apple TV and the app came on, but without the normal Netflix bong. The WiiM app still said WiFi. But by the time I had selected something to watch it had switched to optical and I was getting Apple TV sound. Nice.

I read a rumor that the RCA inputs can be switch to preamp outs? Is that true?
 
Ah, yes it does! I set it to WiFi for music. Shut down the app, shut down the amp. I then turned the amp back on, waited for the connect chime, turned on the app and it still said WiFi. Then I selected Netflix on the Apple TV and the app came on, but without the normal Netflix bong. The WiiM app still said WiFi. But by the time I had selected something to watch it had switched to optical and I was getting Apple TV sound. Nice.

I read a rumor that the RCA inputs can be switch to preamp outs? Is that true?
I don't have a WiiM amp, but auto-sensing may not be perfect yet.

Even if you connect the WiiM amp to the ARC of your TV, it will switch automatically when you turn on the auto-sensing of the optical input. You might want to give it a try. 😉
 
I don't have a WiiM amp, but auto-sensing may not be perfect yet.

Even if you connect the WiiM amp to the ARC of your TV, it will switch automatically when you turn on the auto-sensing of the optical input. You might want to give it a try. 😉
But then how do I get Apple TV on my tv. Would I plug the Apple TV hdmi into the regular hdmi on the tv, then the hdmi eArc into the WiiM amp for sound? I’m not sure how HDMI arc works. Is it hdmi out?

Nvm…got it!
 
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